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Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by tyingq »

AkshitGarg wrote: post #5

Genuinely curious, how does a company manage their domains after they shut down their services to prevent this kind of stuff

You could pre-pay for X years, where X is long enough to ensure you'll be dead when it expires.

Edit: Seems like there's a 10 year limit in many places? I wonder if that's broad convention or an actual rule.

Okay, apparently an ICANN limit for .com domains:

"The expiration date of the domain registration is extended by the number of years, up to a maximum of ten years, as specified by the Registrar's requested Extend operation."

https://www.icann.org/en/registry-agreements/com/com-registr...

Though, I can see that navy.us has an expiry in 2053, so it's likely per registry.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by TekMol »

Domains are an area where blockchain technology could help a lot.

A domain could cost a fixed amount of X per month. So you could pay 100 years upfront and be sure to not lose it in that timeframe.

To move a domain,the registrar and the owner could have to sign the move. So it would not be possible anymore to lose a domain due to the regsitrar making a mistake.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by ignitionmonkey »

We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories.

This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP. On a mismatch, it flags the page and offers a web archive link instead.

https://webverify.jahed.dev/

It was pretty fun to make, but currently due to performance, Web Extensions API doesn't provide the features to do this perfectly. Firefox provides just about enough additional APIs to hack it together.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by alisonkisk »

ignitionmonkey wrote: post #13

We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

Also, Signed Exchanges for CDNs.

https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/11/signed-exc...

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by LinuxBender »

ignitionmonkey wrote: post #13

We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

Could SRI be used for this? [1]

[1] - https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Subres...

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by Scoundreller »

sp332 wrote: post #2

4 years ago, Archive Team backed up "nearly all" of Vidme (according to Jason Scott). It was uploaded to the Internet Archive here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_vidme so you can fix your vid.me URLs by pointing them to the Archive. (And you can help keep them there, too https://archive.org/donate But honestly, using the Archive more keeps the bigger donors involved, so don't feel guilty or anything. Just us…

So uhhhh, anyone want to write the recursive replacement regex that'll do that across an entire filesystem?

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by danso »

sp332 wrote: post #2

4 years ago, Archive Team backed up "nearly all" of Vidme (according to Jason Scott). It was uploaded to the Internet Archive here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_vidme so you can fix your vid.me URLs by pointing them to the Archive. (And you can help keep them there, too https://archive.org/donate But honestly, using the Archive more keeps the bigger donors involved, so don't feel guilty or anything. Just us…

The search results counter is 12,385...is that really all (or "nearly all") of what Vid.me had for content? I mean I know it failed at dethroning Youtube, but 12,000+ videos is barely anything.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by ignitionmonkey »

LinuxBender wrote: post #15
ignitionmonkey wrote: post #13

We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

Could SRI be used for this? [1] [1] - https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Subres...

SRI/hashing works for static content. Though it's worth mentioning it's a SUB-resource feature (images, scripts, etc.). It doesn't work for hyperlinks to other pages. Even if it did, it's a different use case.

Say I link to an article by Author A that has comments in it (or even a footer, relative timestamp, sidebar, etc.). Hashing won't work as the page is always changing. I want the link to always go to Author A but I don't care if the content changes. That's the sort of use case signed webpages and hyperlinks with enforced authorship covers. It's less about what's on the page and more about who created it.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by Scoundreller »

sp332 wrote: post #2

4 years ago, Archive Team backed up "nearly all" of Vidme (according to Jason Scott). It was uploaded to the Internet Archive here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_vidme so you can fix your vid.me URLs by pointing them to the Archive. (And you can help keep them there, too https://archive.org/donate But honestly, using the Archive more keeps the bigger donors involved, so don't feel guilty or anything. Just us…

weird flex, but I needed to get over a threshold to 'earn' a credit card promo for spending enough, and a donation here will do it!

(It's too bad the tax deduction isn't eligible in Canada :( )

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by tqkxzugoaupvwqr »

tyingq wrote: post #11
AkshitGarg wrote: post #5

Genuinely curious, how does a company manage their domains after they shut down their services to prevent this kind of stuff

You could pre-pay for X years, where X is long enough to ensure you'll be dead when it expires. Edit: Seems like there's a 10 year limit in many places? I wonder if that's broad convention or an actual rule. Okay, apparently an ICANN limit for .com domains: "The expiration date of the domain registration is extended by the number of years, up to a maximum of ten years, as specified by the Registrar's requested Extend…

I can at most pay for 10 years in advance. Is this a limit of my registrar?
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