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Yes they are all the same, very edgy
They are indeed not the same. After all NK does not regularly drone-strike civilians in the middle east.
I think this thread should get Dang'ed.
Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
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Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
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What’s wild to me is that someone would think that it’s a good idea to give talks about anything in North Korea, a regime that has murdered and starved millions of people. Also, the people of North Korea do not have access to the internet or Youtube as far as I know.
Sorry how is that regime any different from the US? No idea what he had to gain by travelling to north korea, but more power to him. If it's public info then yeah this is a sham considering that the international financial system is a cartel.
"Sorry how is that regime any different from the US?" - is that an honest question? Do you really not know how western democracy is different from dictatorial and oppressive regimes in Russia, China, or North Korea?
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
#73"Griffith was arrested and charged with conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) in November 2019 after he travelled to North Korea to give a talk on blockchain and crypto." This is pretty wild to me. The guy gave a talk in North Korea and gave them non-classified information they could easily find on YouTube or any other public website. And now he's facing 20 years.
Oh no... How do I tell you this? People in North Korea don't have access to YouTube and the internet. Are you aware of what life is like for the people of North Korea? Only a few select businessmen working for leaders of North Korea are ever allowed to leave and they usually travel to china for unknown business. Giving a talk like this in North Korea is like teaching businessmen how to engage in moving criminal/ terr…
"No normal citizen can run the internet/has access to the internet..."
So, the ones that do have access to the internet, could in fact, as the parent suggests, just go on youtube and get that info. Am I missing something?
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
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Sure, but up to 20 years in prison for that seems absolutely insane
NK is known to obtain foreign currency via cryptocoins. And they need it to pay for developing rockets and atomic weapons. If they ever hit a city in Japan or the US, 20 years would be absolutely mild.
>NK is known to obtain foreign currency via cryptocoins. And they need it to pay for developing rockets and atomic weapons. If they ever hit a city in Japan or the US, 20 years would be absolutely mild.
Interesting. Now do everyone in the last thirty years who helped create the situation where North Korea has nuclear weapons. Starting with Jimmy Carter.
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
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Sure, but up to 20 years in prison for that seems absolutely insane
He willingly violated international sanctions against NK. Just traveling there already takes a huge amount of preparation and intent - to the point where he was likely interrogated before leaving the US as to why he's traveling to NK. If you sold weapons to terrorists you'd be facing similar charges.
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Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
#76Anyone know if there is a link to the presentation/documentation he shared with North Korea?
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Not that your average Joe in NK can access it. The regime most certainly does have internet access though, so pretending like this guy gave some top secret info worth locking him up for 20 years of his life for is ridiculous. Nevermind that in 2019 we were in active peace talks with North Korea and even Trump was…
> The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Modulo local government laws. I am not disagreeing with your larger opinion but we have to be careful about “it’s on the internet hence anyone can access it” line of argument. For instance Pornhub is blocked in India. So if someone were to access it from within India through VPN or whatnot then they are breakin…
I will speak out against BS like that too. Just because a law exists doesn't make it right or moral.
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry how is that regime any different from the US? No idea what he had to gain by travelling to north korea, but more power to him. If it's public info then yeah this is a sham considering that the international financial system is a cartel.
"Sorry how is that regime any different from the US?" - is that an honest question? Do you really not know how western democracy is different from dictatorial and oppressive regimes in Russia, China, or North Korea?
I already replied to this exact question lol. They are comparable at least in terms of death and starvation. In fact, NK has some catching-up to do.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you realize that people in the Middle East could literally say the same thing about USA?
They can say that the US systematically silences, murders and imposes totalitarian dread on its own people?
Do you realize I was replying to your comment where you called it a "degenerate regime that has killed millions"?
Re: Ethereum dev Virgil Griffith back in jail after checking $1M Coinbase account
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Give me six facts about the most honest of men, and I'll have enough to hang them. Which facts you include and exclude is quite relevant to your bias, politics, etc.
This is a philosophical slippery slope. The next question is "what are facts?", or "who decides what's immoral?". I'm not interested in going down this because it's pointless. Reading the original comment, what can construed as "too political" for HN? There wasn't any strong support or opposition.
"The United States invaded Iraq and killed 500,000 innocent people because of the fragile ego of the Bush-Cheney cabal' is an example of:
1. An utterly reprehensible crime against humanity.
2. An accurate fact that's oft-repeated on HN
3. A highly political fact.
4. Utterly pointless to introduce in any conversation that is not closely related to wars.
5. A necessary reminder that our shit stinks.
Despite all that, it's 'too political' to bring it up in a thread like this - because it has nothing to do with the subject, other than to give people a reason to engage in a nationalistic pissing contest.