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Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by eru »

zinekeller wrote: post #64
eru wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In general, the desktop antivirus space in 2021 is a mess. Because of the sheer number of malware, and some obfuscation techniques used by some of it, antivirus software has to use very broad regular expressions for describing the malware, counterbalanced by huge whitelists of known mainstream software. Why do they have to use regular expressions?

"Regular expressions" as a concept, not PCRE regex.

In the sense of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language ?

That's even more restricted than PCRE regex. (Which is often a good thing, but not sure about here.)

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by gspr »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #109
gspr wrote: post #76

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I'd quit my job if work didn't let me be root on my work machine.

And anywhere with a good IT department would say "bye". From my experience, people with reasonable technical skills are the most likely people to defy IT policies, even without admin rights.

Then hold me responsible if I do.

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by mszcz »

marcosdumay wrote: post #200
mszcz wrote: post #189

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I actually do pretty mundane, boring stuff with computers - web dev, some finance & trading, lots of backend. It isn't all that exciting to an average person but I'm fine with it, it gives me pleasure to do it and I don't care what anybody says about it ;) Again, genuine question, what instability do you imply there is in the Windows environment? Since Win 10 I don't recall ever being fucked by updates (again, not in…

My W10 computer at work already had the OS reinstalled 2 times in the less than 2 years I've had it. Since the beginning of the pandemic I've kept a W10 VM at home for work, it has much less small problems, but I've already had to delete it and reinstall once. On my experience, Windows 10 is even a regression over 7. There have been too many updates that fucked up computers at random (looks like MS is rolling updates…

Ha! I had the exact opposite experience. With Win10 Desktop I had no problems, everything works mostly as expected. I'm not on the beta channel or whatever so I guess that contributes to the stability.

Now, onto Linux, most recent example. I had a throwaway Thinkpad with Ubuntu on it. Had to go through an unusual setup because I wanted RAID and FDE so had to do a server install and then install Gnome. This might have contributed to the problems but still. The networking didn't work because Gnome used one thing and the server install used another. Then the desktop stopped (!) working after some time, randomly. What I mean is icons still showed up but couldn't be clicked or altered from the desktop. Kinda bizzare.

Again, can't stress this enough - my gripes are with Linux Desktop. On the server it's been rock solid ever since I started using it more than a decade ago and it's been a very pleasant experience. And I do understand that Windows Updates can fuck up a server setup, sure.

Anyhow, this has been a pleasant chat, man!

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by nix23 »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #184
nix23 wrote: post #77

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Holy caracho!! I understand if you have it on a file-server (bad rep if you send a MS-Word-Macrovirus to a Customer) but on a linux build server?? That's just madness!

Depending on the use, the server could be immune to malware and still transmit it to their clients.

Then check the binary before installation/tests if you have to, but not on the linux build server itself...that's ridiculous. A HIDS would be the the answer, so you can be ~sure that your tools are not altered to inject code into your compiled product.

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by blooalien »

DrBazza wrote: post #127

It's things like this that are making me less and less likely to continue using Windows at home. I've been running Linux KDE dual booting for a year or so, and I've have touched Windows in (uptime...) - 22 days or so. With Windows 11 coming bundled with Teams, and other "stuff" from Windows 10 including it becoming an 'internet first OS (x)' I'm getting stuff I don't want or need. (x) although it's documented on the…

> I've been running Linux KDE dual booting for a year or so, and I've have touched Windows in (uptime...) - 22 days or so.

Sounds like how I ended up on Linux full time. I dual booted for a while before I one day realized I hadn't booted into Windows for months. At that point I saw no valid reason to keep my Windows partition at all and just put in the effort to get my last few "Windowsy" activities switched over to Linux applications (mostly gaming and graphics related stuff).

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by ASalazarMX »

nix23 wrote: post #204
ASalazarMX wrote: post #184

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Depending on the use, the server could be immune to malware and still transmit it to their clients.

Then check the binary before installation/tests if you have to, but not on the linux build server itself...that's ridiculous. A HIDS would be the the answer, so you can be ~sure that your tools are not altered to inject code into your compiled product.

I'm guessing they're covering the case where a feature or a vulnerability allows uploading Windows malware and exposing it with other users.

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by Arrath »

tomc1985 wrote: post #169
_fat_santa wrote: post #128

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My company recently signed a deal with a healthcare company to do some work on their systems. I got a laptop from this company, MBP 16" so not bad. But lord oh lord are there so many things on this laptop. Two worst offenders are: - Antivirus: Just hogs memory, the scan runs "throughout the day" and I've had to resort to using scripts to shut the thing down just so my code will compile. - Other annoying features: Let…

"There's something wrong with your iCloud ID, please log in to fix it" popup. But hey we disabled iCloud integration so they'll never be able to actually login! (cue evil laughter)

My work-issued iPhone wants me to verify me Apple ID password for whatever reason.

By device management policy I am locked out from entering my Apple ID information again. Great success.

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by MonaroVXR »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #114
nix23 wrote: post #68

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Oh man....a mac with antivirus software...is your IT's mindset from the 90s?

People apparently disagree, but I'm with you. The idea that antivirus software is actually a worthwhile mitigation tool is a relic from the 90s. Malware defeats antivirus all the time, and sometimes even exploits it directly. Meanwhile, aggressive antivirus software is eating a percentage of every single task you do on your computer, actively impeding your work every second of your day. The tradeoff is not worth it,…

Depends on what the "anti-virus' does isnt it?

Re: MS Windows Defender and DeCSS

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

gspr wrote: post #202
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #109

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And anywhere with a good IT department would say "bye". From my experience, people with reasonable technical skills are the most likely people to defy IT policies, even without admin rights.

Then hold me responsible if I do.

Often by the time the violation is noticed, the damage is done. And when you're cleaning up a million dollars worth of ransomware damage, you rethink whoever thought anyone should ever be operating with admin rights to their machine.
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