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Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by heavyset_go »

anm89 wrote: post #35

As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

Specifically, some species of Psilocybe look almost identical to some Galerina species, and sometimes they grow right next to each other. You don't want to eat Galerina[1].

In my opinion, hunting shelf fungi is pretty beginner friendly. As far as I'm aware, many species are edible, and those that aren't will just give you a stomach ache instead of giving you liver failure.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galerina_marginata#Toxicity

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by heavyset_go »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #58
anm89 wrote: post #35

As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

This is of interest to me. Could you recommend IL state booklet?

Check out Mushroom Observer[1], and use the map or search feature to find observations in your state. You can also search by genus or species.

[1] https://mushroomobserver.org/

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by heavyset_go »

shellac wrote: post #33
WesleyHale wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there are poisonous mushrooms that are eerily similar to mushrooms that contain psilocybin. [1] Depending on its stage of growth, they can be easily confused, especially by a newcomer. There is one main rule to foraging. "Never eat a mushroom you can't positively identify." If any trait of it's appearance is questionable, don't eat it. 1: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-confuse-psilocybin-m...

> eerily similar to mushrooms that contain psilocybin. [1] The link says "Psilocybin mushrooms don’t look a lot like poisonous mushrooms. [...] So while it is possible, even a small amount of research will help you not to confuse them. :)".

This is inaccurate or out of date or both. Some species of Psilocybe look just like Galerina and sometimes grow right next to them.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

#104

Post by Pyramus »

ta988 wrote: post #57
Pyramus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would compare this website more to a very rough, speculative weather forecast. It might increase your chances to find psilocybe slightly, but not really. My understanding is that fatalities from psilocybe (at least in Europe) happen, but are a small percentage of total fatalities, with other species such as amanita being several times more dangerous.

Not all amanita are dangerous.

True, Amanita phalloides specifically is the single most deadly mushroom at least in Germany according to (slightly dated) statistics.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by Pyramus »

Freak_NL wrote: post #36
Pyramus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would compare this website more to a very rough, speculative weather forecast. It might increase your chances to find psilocybe slightly, but not really. My understanding is that fatalities from psilocybe (at least in Europe) happen, but are a small percentage of total fatalities, with other species such as amanita being several times more dangerous.

The risk would be consuming something that is not Psilocybe semilanceata, but poisonous enough to be lethal. Statistically, that wouldn't count as a fatality from it, but from whatever mushroom was consumed instead.

Should have been more precise, I meant fatalities from Psilocybe or little brown mushrooms that look like them.

Looking at statistics for a part of Germany (2006) again, there weren't actually any fatalities but 'only' cases of poisoning.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by slothtrop »

boring_twenties wrote: post #84
slothtrop wrote: post #81

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No one needs to pick up a manual to hike.

Um, yeah you do. You need to be able to, at a minimum, survive overnight in the event you get stuck up there.

Hiking doesn't necessarily mean going "up", let alone through highly steep paths. Walking through the woods in uneven terrain is hiking.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by Relys »

anm89 wrote: post #35

As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

You can observe for the presence of psilocybin by blue bruising of the mushroom flesh. If you make a tea, the water will turn blue as psilocybin converts into psilocin through hydrolysis. You can squeeze some lemon juice in to stop the reaction before it turns from blue to dark (i.e. adjust the pH to stop the reaction before the psilocin breaks down into non-active compounds).

Or you can just get some 4-Aco-DMT to convert to psilocin which is way easier to microdose.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Post by breakfastduck »

anm89 wrote: post #48
breakfastduck wrote: post #46

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How can we be so certain there are no killer mushrooms in your area? We have no idea what is growing on a daily basis, the guidebooks were only accurate on the date of publication.

This just isn't true. There aren't new mushroom species popping up in the night with any regularity. In the US we have a very good survey of what is out there. I have never heard a story of someone making a positive identification based on the resources available, then getting poisoned because they had discovered a new species which had total overlap with their positive identification. Doesn't mean it's never happene…

I was talking about misidentifying because there's a mushroom present that 'shouldnt' be in the area, not an entirely new species, lets not get carried away because it frustrated you.

There are plenty of things people dont do because of the risk, so your argument there is complete nonsense.

Sure jumping out of a plane with a parachute is going to be safe if you're confident you know what you're doing, but there's plenty of people (including myself) that wouldn't dare do it.

The comment I responded to had this - "but she wouldn't budge from the belief that if you're not an expert you'll pick a mushroom and die. People are missing out on a very enjoyable past time because of fear mongering."

Which is an unbelievably ignorant attitude. Comes across as "People aren't getting into X hobby I like because they're afraid, so we should peer pressure them into doing it anyway" (even though someone who is nervous is 10x more likely to make a mistake that DOES end in death or illness)

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

#110

Post by boring_twenties »

slothtrop wrote: post #106
boring_twenties wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, yeah you do. You need to be able to, at a minimum, survive overnight in the event you get stuck up there.

Hiking doesn't necessarily mean going "up", let alone through highly steep paths. Walking through the woods in uneven terrain is hiking.

OK, I should have said "out there" instead of "up there" -- happy now? It doesn't change my point at all. What happens when you twist your ankle in those uneven woods and are unable to get out before nightfall?
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