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Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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Re: Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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In the very first line: > but out here in the crumbling state of California Yup, no need to read any more.

California is crumbling, socially. Have you seen the homelessness epidemic from San Fransisco and everywhere south? I work in a lucrative upper engineering management role and still cannot afford to buy a house... That's not really an indicator of a healthy state.

Re: Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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In the very first line: > but out here in the crumbling state of California Yup, no need to read any more.

Yep, recently moved to California from the Midwest and I am regretting not moving earlier. Its been 3 months but I am still blow. Away by how amazing everything. Sure, it's expensive, but you get what you pay for.

Re: Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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In the very first line: > but out here in the crumbling state of California Yup, no need to read any more.

California is crumbling, socially. Have you seen the homelessness epidemic from San Fransisco and everywhere south? I work in a lucrative upper engineering management role and still cannot afford to buy a house... That's not really an indicator of a healthy state.

Then ask for a raise. Two people making $140k should easily be able to save up $400k in 5-8 years for a mortgage down payment. And single people don't need an entire house.

Re: Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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There is no real evidence for the idea that a difference in scores predicts a difference in performance, once you are above some threshold.

They should keep the test, but use a threshold (per major and school) with a lottery for everyone above the threshold. And admit a small number below at random to keep evaluating what the threshold should be.

Re: Why is the university of California dropping the SAT?

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> Here are some more of the fiercely held arguments for dumping the tests: Test scores don’t reflect the character-forging aspects of life as a poor teenager; the tests force students from underfunded schools to compete against “affluent whites” who can afford expensive test prep;

While the article does offer some rebuttal to that claim, I'd like to give a stronger one*: California is 31% white, University of California students are 25% white - they are underrepresented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California#Stude...

*Edit: On second thought, grardb is correct: Comparing with K-12 demographics, as the article does, is better.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

California is crumbling, socially. Have you seen the homelessness epidemic from San Fransisco and everywhere south? I work in a lucrative upper engineering management role and still cannot afford to buy a house... That's not really an indicator of a healthy state.

Then ask for a raise. Two people making $140k should easily be able to save up $400k in 5-8 years for a mortgage down payment. And single people don't need an entire house.

With the $400k, they should forget the down-payment, move somewhere with reasonable real estate, and buy two houses outright.
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