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Inside TikTok’s Algorithm [video]

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Post by mherrmann »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

I think this is a huge problem for many people born in the past 30 years. We see all these amazing people on (social) media and compare ourselves to them if they're the same sex, or feel attracted to them. I can only imagine what it does to the body image of 14yo girls. In a somewhat similar vein, boys in puberty masturbate to porn that sets completely unrealistic expectations with regards to their partners and experiences in real life. It is a huge, and I think not often-enough talked about, problem. I hope we will find a solution some day, but I have no idea what it could be.

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Post by powerapple »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

Sooner or later we just use algorithms to generate girls for you, so you can have whatever you wish to have.

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Post by thrwaway_tik »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

Created throwaway account just to provide some insight. In terms of attractiveness, what you see on the internet is usually the top 1% of females, as there's strong effects of "winner takes all" when it comes to attention from the opposite sex. Now, highly ranking females on the internet are getting hit on by hundreds or even thousands of possible male suitors, and the ones with blue ticks, fame/money/clout are the ones taking those girls on dates. Again, winner takes all dynamic. On the flip side you can argue that it's not mentally healthy for those girls and their relationships, but internet addiction does bad things to ones brain. For young guys/girls it makes them depressed as it paints unrealistic standards and tricks the brain into believing lies. My humble advice for men is to work on themselves, improve one's sexual marketplace value and then look for a partner. My advice for attractive females is to be careful of capitalizing too much on their juvenile looks... Once accustomed to a lavish lifestyle, it's depressing when eventually one comes down from the pedestal.

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Post by stevewodil »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

If you're really in the top 20% you should have no problems. Go out and try to game with girls.

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Post by padastra »

siscia wrote: post #10
dna_polymerase wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These responses get boring pretty quick. None of this is the real world. Start participating in the world off-screen. Start something new, drop bad habits and eventually you will fill that emptiness inside you. It's the same for everything people get hooked on, it changes you perception but in reality it's all in your mind.

Yeah it is not always simple, we need empathy when dealing with this kind of problem, not brushing off people that may be having difficult times.

I don’t disagree with you on a personal level, but it is worth noting that “social disgust” is what has driven down tobacco rates as a population, even if it’s perhaps less effective for any one individual than empathy, etc.

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Post by bongoman37 »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

The difference between pretty and stunning is a lot of work with makeup, lighting, dressing and so on. I dated a model briefly, she could change from and 8 to a 10 depending on how much effort and time she wanted to put in. This is true for guys too.

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Post by swiley »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

You should get rid of your smartphone. They're designed to make you depressed so you respond better to ads.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

High expectations is the key to unhappiness.

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Post by mattbee »

mandmandam wrote: post #3

"We programmed bots to go down rabbit-holes. Watch as TikTok's algorithm makes our bots go down rabbit holes!" Not saying TikTok isn't spooky. But: The effort that went into making the viewer feel anxious while watching this was extreme ; and the effort that went into actual explanation of the TikTok algorithm was minimal.

Yes this was a disappointing watch - they seemed to have gone to some effort to simulate a lot of accounts with interests, and testing some handwaving unspecified theories. But then they only detailed _one_ of those fake accounts, and it showed some pretty unsurprising results. If you hover over videos of X, it shows more of that - Kentucky, depression, romance etc.

The only real discovery was the disparity between the TikTok spokesperson (who said that 7% of anyone's feed should be trying to broaden your interests) and their observation that those videos were in fact mostly adverts.

And (sorta) that hitting Dislike doesn't seem to do much, if you counter than signal by watching/liking other videos. But it was all very vague given how much data they said they'd gathered.

I agree I don't think the algorithm is particularly clever, or works towards any other goal than for users to spend more time with the app Which is the assumption I was starting from.

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Post by etherwaste »

thrwawytiktok wrote: post #6

For me tiktok is so depressing. I am single 25+ guy and seeing all those beautiful girls my age or younger makes me so sad. Than I can go to Tinder and match with pretty but not stunning girls and feel like I am getting robbed. And according to my friends I am easily in top 20% of attractiveness. Feel bad for rest of guys I guess this is life in 21 century. Governed by algorithms and feeling empty inside

You're a gross person and should be ashamed.
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