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I think the words themselves are racist - black and white. I'd be down with getting rid of them from the dictionary all together. Edit: Add brown as well to the list.
Wow. Would never have imagined I'd read something like this on hacker news.
A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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No. What we need is something that is amazingly simple: * you, a programmer who coded something that caused company X to lose Y dollars because of a "mistake", have to be on a hook for Y dollars. * you, a manager who managed a project that caused a company X to lose Y dollars because of a "mistake" by your programmer, have to be on a hook for Y dollars. * you, a product owner who accepted the what the manager of ta p…
You forgot the board and the shareholders.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#453Well. The speech police started changing "blacklist" and "whitelist" in programming context, even when those had no racist history; maybe it's time to change it in chess. (After all, white always goes first, that is not very PC.) Rename "black" and "white" to "second player" and "first player".
The speech police didn't do anything. I stopped using those terms because they're not descriptive.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. What we need is something that is amazingly simple: * you, a programmer who coded something that caused company X to lose Y dollars because of a "mistake", have to be on a hook for Y dollars. * you, a manager who managed a project that caused a company X to lose Y dollars because of a "mistake" by your programmer, have to be on a hook for Y dollars. * you, a product owner who accepted the what the manager of ta p…
Start punishing mistakes and you will soon have a hard time finding good people to employ. Only bad (and broke) ones will be available.
Nah, the opposite. Being paid $800k/year is a great carrot. It should come with a stick so fewer people do the cruise control.
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I don't see how you could believe this point, unless you think things like "There's no bad music, only bad musicians" as well. Perhaps an elucidating counterpoint is an algorithm written in such a manner that it is deliberately worthless, as a joke (e.g., StackSort, Bogosort). Obviously they're not the result of a bad programmer, they're just an inherently bad algorithm.
>unless you think things like "There's no bad music, only bad musicians" as well. I actually do though, and I say that as a musician myself. These things are inherently subjective, writing good music isn't just a matter of how closely the musician adheres to a pre-determined set of rules. The qualities of goodness and badness exist in the minds of the creators and the audience rather than being attached to the music…
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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>unless you think things like "There's no bad music, only bad musicians" as well. I actually do though, and I say that as a musician myself. These things are inherently subjective, writing good music isn't just a matter of how closely the musician adheres to a pre-determined set of rules. The qualities of goodness and badness exist in the minds of the creators and the audience rather than being attached to the music…
Are there bad smells?
That subjective information which describes the badness of a smell doesn't exist within the smell itself, it exists within the mind.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#457We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Apparently not.
You are assuming that this "problem" is costing them more than hiring some humans. This article sounds more to me like the media making some sensational story. It seems unlikely that there is significant impact to YouTube from this event.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Chess is not only racist but also sexist. How come the king is the most important piece on the board but the queen is completely expendable?! And, for goodness sake, the game features actual white knights.
The Queen is a significantly better piece. The King needs to be protected and is borderline unusable until end game, where the Queen is the most powerful piece from start to finish. This is so evident that in higher levels of play, people just resign when they lose their Queen.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#460Well. The speech police started changing "blacklist" and "whitelist" in programming context, even when those had no racist history; maybe it's time to change it in chess. (After all, white always goes first, that is not very PC.) Rename "black" and "white" to "second player" and "first player".
How about just light and dark? A lot of chessboards don't have strictly black and white colored pieces anyway. (For the record I think the whole thing is stupid)
For example “black’s light squared bishop” would become “light’s light squared bishop”.