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Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by sichtlinkair »

jrib wrote: post #107
aneutron wrote: post #41

This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Although I'm aware that you can pin applications to the task bar by right clicking. I surely hope they give alternative ways to pin stuff. But in the article, here's what's pissing me off: > In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right,…

I move it to the top since most window interaction is at the top: menus, minimize, close. That way my nose travels less. The inability to move the taskbar to the top is disappointing.

> That way my nose travels less

Your mouse, you mean? Otherwise you have some explaining to do :)

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by zohch »

hbn wrote: post #9

> In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right, or left. I have a feeling this is gonna be the big issue for some people. I personally just leave it at the bottom, but there's something to be said that when you have a standard 16:9 monitor, it doesn't make sense to remove that space from the vertical ax…

> I have a feeling this is gonna be the big issue for some people.

Some users will moan, maybe less than 0.001% will consider moving to a different OS, and things will just continue as it stands. MS knows they have a captive audience with Windows, so they don't have to care what the users want.

In areas where MS does not have a captive audience they are much more competitive and provide much better value.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by christophilus »

silicon2401 wrote: post #2

> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.

I switched from Windows to Mac and am now very happily running Fedora. Fedora is really nice out of the box, once you get used to the Gnome desktop way of doing things. Now, when I have to use a Windows or OSX machine, I generally find the experience to be subpar. I’d never have expected that.

Also, Steam + gaming works surprisingly well.

I guess what I’m saying is: give it a shot!

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by EMM_386 »

aneutron wrote: post #41

This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Although I'm aware that you can pin applications to the task bar by right clicking. I surely hope they give alternative ways to pin stuff. But in the article, here's what's pissing me off: > In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right,…

> Now I'm not a user of this feature. But in my immediate circle, no less than 6 of the many people I know work with windows (maybe 30 folks ?) use the task bar on the left or right (they have different monitor setups)

That's very strange. I have been a Windows developer since the 90s so I've seen a lot of setups, between other developers and all the users I have had to interact with. So this number is in the thousands easily.

I've never seen a Windows taskbar not on the bottom outside of people just experimenting with layouts, similar to how people experiment with things like WindowBlinds or Classic Shell. I don't recall ever seeing this on a business user or even a developer machine.

I'm not even being hyperbolic here. I don't recall one single instance of remoting into a machine for support, or being sent a screenshot by an end-user, that has the taskbar anywhere but the bottom.

That's since Windows 3.1.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by S_A_P »

EMM_386 wrote: post #115
aneutron wrote: post #41

This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Although I'm aware that you can pin applications to the task bar by right clicking. I surely hope they give alternative ways to pin stuff. But in the article, here's what's pissing me off: > In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right,…

> Now I'm not a user of this feature. But in my immediate circle, no less than 6 of the many people I know work with windows (maybe 30 folks ?) use the task bar on the left or right (they have different monitor setups) That's very strange. I have been a Windows developer since the 90s so I've seen a lot of setups, between other developers and all the users I have had to interact with. So this number is in the thousan…

I’ve used the task bar this way. (Along the left vertically) it matches how I use macOS which has the dock along the left.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by milbertson »

jrib wrote: post #107
aneutron wrote: post #41

This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Although I'm aware that you can pin applications to the task bar by right clicking. I surely hope they give alternative ways to pin stuff. But in the article, here's what's pissing me off: > In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right,…

I move it to the top since most window interaction is at the top: menus, minimize, close. That way my nose travels less. The inability to move the taskbar to the top is disappointing.

I do the same

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by _trampeltier »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #54
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vision from a small group of individuals who care always beats just trying to scry design from looking at metrics, even when the metrics are millions.

The problem is, the "small group" is also the same small group who figures out how to disable or firewall the telemetry. So their use cases end up being ignored completely. That's the downside to force-feeding telemetry to everybody without respecting individual user preferences. Some people won't like that, and will find workarounds to disable it. While those clearly aren't the users you need to pay the most attenti…

Or a bit larger companys. They also mostly send no telemerty.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by _trampeltier »

t0mbstone wrote: post #68
JohnFen wrote: post #34

Microsoft seems to have a knack for making Windows less useful and more annoying with every release.

The most frustrating thing for me is that it's so inonsistent with its UI. There are literally three different sound device control panels now, each with their own style and subset of functionality. I wouldn't mind it so much if it wasn't for the fact that Windows 10 always refers me to the less functional (but prettier) sound control panel when I search for "sound". If I want to actually get to the settings I want,…

Try to open network adapter settings .. still so many mouse clicks.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by 0b01 »

hexa22 wrote: post #109
Goronmon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Is it intuitive? I honestly didn't know this was something you could do, and it doesn't seem to work for me. The most I am able to do while dragging something to the taskbar is to pin it to the application that could open it. Other times I just get the same red 'X' as on Windows 11. Is there a use pattern that I'm just not thinking of?

I’m sure Microsoft has the stats that shows almost no one uses drag and drop

Yes I think most people right click pin in context menu on an opened application
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