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Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by vxNsr »

Ashanmaril wrote: post #66
vxNsr wrote: post #51

Windows 11 really is shaping up to be the vista version. Look forward to windows 12 which will have all the good features without the annoying ones. Microsoft really has a lock on the good-bad-good cadence.

I don't buy that "good-bad-good-bad" pattern that everyone references. It's a mildly funny observation, but it's hard to say that Windows 10 is really that good. It's more usable than Windows 8, but the bar was so low, that's not a very useful metric.

It added a lot more stability over win8 and removed a bunch of terrible UX. Additionally it added to a lot of the great ideas of windows 7. I can’t recall any off the top of my head, but I remember trying to do things in 7 and being surprised they weren’t possible.

I agree that win8 set a low bar, but so did vista, fact is 7 was much better and 10 follows that same progression.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by Atomskun »

marcellus23 wrote: post #3

> you can open a file by dragging it onto an app on the taskbar I honestly thought this wasn't true because it never worked when I tried it. Is the third party support for this feature just really lacking compared to macOS where it seems universal?

Hold shift while dropping.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by selfhoster11 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #54
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vision from a small group of individuals who care always beats just trying to scry design from looking at metrics, even when the metrics are millions.

The problem is, the "small group" is also the same small group who figures out how to disable or firewall the telemetry. So their use cases end up being ignored completely. That's the downside to force-feeding telemetry to everybody without respecting individual user preferences. Some people won't like that, and will find workarounds to disable it. While those clearly aren't the users you need to pay the most attenti…

Presumably, parent meant that that small group of individuals would be an explicit focus panel rather than passive telemetry being gathered.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by selfhoster11 »

bob1029 wrote: post #60
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #14

Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.

If you want to feel really sad, go install a bootleg copy of 2000/XP on a vm and do some basic computering. Just opening the start menu may drive some of you to tears when you realize what we have lost.

Windows 7 style window management improvements and taskbar are things that I'm really missing when I use an XP VM because I've gotten so used to them. But the UX is clearly designed for high density and high productivity. Not like Windows 11.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by foepys »

voisin wrote: post #71
hbn wrote: post #9

> In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right, or left. I have a feeling this is gonna be the big issue for some people. I personally just leave it at the bottom, but there's something to be said that when you have a standard 16:9 monitor, it doesn't make sense to remove that space from the vertical ax…

I wonder why they removed the feature. Microsoft isn’t exactly known for cutting features to achieve a minimalist interface.

They probably rewrote the entire taskbar because reasons and when the deadline neared, they cut features.

I would not rule out the possibility that the team that rewrote the taskbar does not include a single person who wrote the original taskbar and now nobody knows how to get drag and drop to work reliably with all formats.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by foepys »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #11

Drag and drop was already abysmal on Windows compared to MacOS, things I take for granted on MacOS like dragging an image from a web browser to a photoshop document just don't work. This is just another kick in the teeth for people who find this a fast and flexible way to work.

That is entirely the applications fault. Win32 supplies APIs for the clipboard and drag and drop. The application developers chose to not implement them.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by craftinator »

DashAnimal wrote: post #38
silicon2401 wrote: post #2

> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.

Every year or so I reevaluate whether Linux can run without dual boot on my desktop and the cycle is the same - something that was previously a blocker is no longer a blocker, but along the way I discover some other issue. It used to be gaming, GPU video decoding on Firefox, etc. Now it is the fact that most music production software uses iLok - in particular I've been using Neural DSP VSTs to play and record guitar.…

Currently the only reason I use windows at all is because Fusion 360 only runs on windows. As soon as I find a seamless workaround, I can finally dump it completely. Pretty excited about that!

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by tinus_hn »

king_magic wrote: post #4

I've never once in all my years of using Windows dragged a file onto an application in the taskbar to open that file. I didn't even know that was a thing you could do until this post.

It used to not work for the longest time because Apple used to have a patent for it, which I presume expired.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by bpiche »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #36
windoze123 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, its the product managers. Us, software “professionals” dont even like windows. You are barking at the wrong tree.

"Don't blame us, we were just following orders!"

I realize you have caught the ire of the goderator and maybe offended a well-meaning MSFT dev, but I appreciate your diligence in attacking our kind for implementing bad features, you're not entirely wrong.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Post by bpiche »

fsflover wrote: post #43
blacktriangle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I'd pay a massive sum to have Win2k back. Easily the high point of OS design.

https://reactos.org

Thank you, this is a very interesting distro.. Wondering how open source it can really be if it's running Windows drivers under the hood?
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