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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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What OS/distro does the laptop ship with?

The pre-built versions ship with Windows 10. The Framework Laptop DIY Edition ships without an OS installed.

Does this implies I will need to pay Microsoft tax even if I am planning to run Linux?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

Any plans for AMD or ARM processor options? The amd ryzen stuff has nearly good performance per watt that the M1 does. I really can’t see myself buying another intel processor for at least a few generations.

Noted in other comments, but we have designed the mainboard to be replaceable and upgradeable by the end user to new CPU platforms. We haven't announced anything yet, but this is a core part of the design and architecture of the product.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

#154
What about extending "right to repair" to OS software and supporting open source OS like Linux or FreeBSD? Current product page only lists Microsoft Windows. I do not see an option to purchase it without, so Microsoft tax seems to be collected :(

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

#155
post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

Any plans for AMD or ARM processor options? The amd ryzen stuff has nearly good performance per watt that the M1 does. I really can’t see myself buying another intel processor for at least a few generations.

You seem to be misinformed.

Everyone loves to hate Intel (and rightfully so) but Tiger Lake has better IPC and implicitly better single threaded performance than Ryzen. In real world tasks (web browsing, opening an IDE) it often comes on top of AMD.

It only loses to AMD in multi threaded benchmarks because of the lower core count (everyone loves to flex Cinebench scores online, but I buy my laptop to use, not run benchmarks).

Also, the iGPU in Tiger Lake is more modern and more powerful than the outdated Vega iGPU in Ryzen and it also has AV1 codec hardware decoding unlike Ryzen which is stuck at VP9.

Add in Thunderbolt support and using Tiger Lake makes perfect sense for this form factor. Ryzen shines best in gaming laptops with discrete GPUs.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pre-built versions ship with Windows 10. The Framework Laptop DIY Edition ships without an OS installed.

Does this implies I will need to pay Microsoft tax even if I am planning to run Linux?

The Framework Laptop DIY Edition ships without an OS license of any kind. If you want a pre-built Framework Laptop, that does include the cost of a Windows license. The DIY Edition is super easy to set up though: https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Framework+Laptop+DIY+Edition...

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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What about extending "right to repair" to OS software and supporting open source OS like Linux or FreeBSD? Current product page only lists Microsoft Windows. I do not see an option to purchase it without, so Microsoft tax seems to be collected :(

Try the DIY edition, which comes without an OS:

https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-edition

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