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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by bscphil » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:44 AM UTC

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

From what I can find, the documentation on the screen just says it covers 100% of the sRGB gamut. That's nice, but do you have an example of a calibration profile that shows the full gamut coverage? It would be nice to compare it to Adobe RGB and P3 gamuts. Is the screen HDR or 10 bit input capable?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:44 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #7

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

We're almost all thinking it, so... are you trying to get sued by Apple, or what's the reason for 1:1 copy of the design? Edit: To be clear, I'm not just trying to dunk on the idea. That would be the reason for me not to buy one if it looks like the vendor can fold because Apple dragged them to court.

The lead-in photo on that email happens to be at an angle that doesn't show off the distinguishing features and functionality. On our website you can readily see just how different it is from an Apple product: https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-edition

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

itwy wrote: post #9

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

How compatible is it with Linux? Was it tested with specific distros?

We've been testing with Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34. We'll be releasing guides around both of these soon and other distros in the future. On Fedora 34 respins that are going live soon, everything works out of the box, including the fingerprint reader. On Ubuntu 21.04, everything works out of the box except the fingerprint reader, which requires manually upgrading libfprint.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by aftergibson » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

itwy wrote: post #9

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

How compatible is it with Linux? Was it tested with specific distros?

Yeah the fact that Linux supporter isn’t listed makes me pause on making a purchase, especially when it’s from a new laptop maker.

Hopefully on release we can get some confirmations about how well it runs.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by wmf » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #7

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

We're almost all thinking it, so... are you trying to get sued by Apple, or what's the reason for 1:1 copy of the design? Edit: To be clear, I'm not just trying to dunk on the idea. That would be the reason for me not to buy one if it looks like the vendor can fold because Apple dragged them to court.

So many laptops are copying Apple that it's no longer notable.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by everyone » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #7

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

We're almost all thinking it, so... are you trying to get sued by Apple, or what's the reason for 1:1 copy of the design? Edit: To be clear, I'm not just trying to dunk on the idea. That would be the reason for me not to buy one if it looks like the vendor can fold because Apple dragged them to court.

Also kind of sends the wrong message. Aping the masters of planned obsolescence and unrepairability. You'd think they wouldn't want an even passing resemblance to anything apple.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by 8note » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

decremental wrote: post #2

Is it legal to sell something that looks almost indistinguishable from a MacBook? These responses to anyone pointing out how similar the design is are so disingenuous. Very strange!

I don't think I could distinguish it from any laptop.

Do MacBooks come with a windows key?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by luke2m » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #7

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

We're almost all thinking it, so... are you trying to get sued by Apple, or what's the reason for 1:1 copy of the design? Edit: To be clear, I'm not just trying to dunk on the idea. That would be the reason for me not to buy one if it looks like the vendor can fold because Apple dragged them to court.

Almost every thin and light laptop on the market these days looks like a macbook replica. And iirc, macs have a 16:10 display.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by nrp » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

0235005 wrote: post #10

Great! I hope you all the best. I know it's kind of a generic comment but I've been waiting so long for a computer like this, I really hope that your crush the market

Thanks! It really is long overdue, and we've seen a ton of enthusiasm from folks who have been waiting for this. It's all the more strange that laptops are so locked down, since desktop PCs are one of the few remaining consumer product categories where repair, upgrade, and customization are the norm.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by emacsen » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

nrp wrote: post #4

Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

From the web site, the selling point seems to be around this being a "right to repair" laptop.

What's a bit unclear to me is that it seems the Framework Laptop is not be under an Open Source license, unlike the Pinebook Pro, the Librem 14 or the MNT Reform- the MNT being the most "user serviceable" as well as most repairable.

Is your laptop fully open source, or if not, what makes it special or different from these other products?