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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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I don’t buy it. In 2006, tobacco smoking rates among schizophrenics was 90% vs 20% of non-schizophrenics. [0]

Now, does tobacco cause schizophrenia or do schizophrenics seek out tobacco?

Now, s/tobacco/marijuana/g for the above sentence.

[0] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1744-6163.2006...

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…

There's a relationship between smoking cigarettes and schizophrenia too. I think this may be a case of people trying to self medicate for their conditions. > "There has been emerging evidence of an association between tobacco smoking and schizophrenia spectrum disorders (SSD). Two meta-analyses have reported that people who smoke tobacco have an ~2-fold increased risk of incident schizophrenia or psychosis, even afte…

I agree 100%, I believe schizophrenics with symptoms seek out marijuana, just like they do with tobacco.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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I have some experience with this. My first wife was diagnosed with schizophrenia after birthing a stillborn baby. This was about 14 month after we had our first child. One of her doctors insisted the cause was marijuana, but she really did smoke much at all. I did most everyday though and one of the first questions he asked was if we used it. I told him I thought it was caused by losing the baby and he insisted that…

Thank you for sharing your experience and I'm sorry for your losses.

I'm taken away by your story and would like to connect, please. I have a similar experience and I'm working on a research project in AI that is related to this. Please drop me a note me aee at berkeley edu I couldn't find your contact info in your profile.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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cnn is not here to tell the truth, never has been, never will be. two of their reporters just got paid hundreds of millions of nazibuxxx to literally keep spilling bullshit on cnn. bye jeff bezos.

some idiots figured out that people who deal with schizophrenia also smoke pot. there's nothing else in that article.

the rest of this is just regular abrahamic nazi propaganda, gas-lighting, attrition, and other harmful things.

even in this thread, these pompous egotistical white supremacist clowns show just how little they care and just how little they know. the levels of gas-lighting in this thread is a type of culture hacker news promotes.

even worse than the microaggression and targeting, they're making it more difficult for people who actually have to deal with this disorder to find treatment, help, and acceptance in this fascist society which already makes it too difficult. even worse, some of these dipshits are lying about their own annecdotes and the circumstances surrounding them because they're ashamed and guilty for what they've done.

fuck off

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Exactly. The narrative of the "stronger, more dangerous(!) weed" falls short because consumers have always, and will always, micro-dose. That's just the human way to do it. You don't drink 1l of water when you are thirsty, you drink until the body tells you it is enough. You don't eat until the food is empty (ok well, sometimes we do..), you eat until you are full. I find it disappointing the same'ol propaganda reapp…

That's very much not universal. Some people use moderation, some people go crazy on it. It's always been that way, for anything. There are drinkers who will have a couple of drinks, get pleasantly buzzed, and enjoy their evening, and there's people who get completely smashed every time. Same thing for food--over 40% of Americans are obese now. It would be very surprising if there weren't (at least) a substantial mino…

That wouldn't change with a more or less potent strain, though. People will use until desired effects are reached. An alcoholic might drink a liter of vodka in a sitting to get hammered, but they aren't going to drink only a liter of beer if they were drinking beer, they will drink an entire case of beer to get to the desired effects.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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This would not surprise me at all. But I'm curious to know if they got the causation backwards. Maybe people with schizophrenia just have a higher likelihood of smoking marijuana

Untreated neuro-divergent people tend to use recreational drugs for medicinal purposes. And psychoactive drug usage is directly linked with the early onset of otherwise dormant schizophrenia, as well as a myriad of other mental disorders. There is no science to state that psychoactives cause these mental disorders. In fact, current medical science states the opposite, that psychoactives do NOT cause, but exacerbate,…

> And psychoactive drug usage is directly linked with the early onset of otherwise dormant schizophrenia, as well as a myriad of other mental disorders.

Citation please. Drug usage tends to begun around the same age schizophrenia is typically diagnosed.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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The high THC and lack of CBD in today's strains is concerning (to me) honestly. I'm worried that a lot of the data we've seen in the past about chronic cannabis use being relatively safe may not apply when THC/CBD ratios approach 50:1, since CBD and other cannabinoids counter act some of THCs effects.

Criminalizing is a big part of this problem. With "medical" weed you can carefully chose a fitting strain just to your liking and condition, like indica for calming and sativa for inspiring effect, in hundreds of nuances even. But no. Too much money to be made for some groups from this prohibition. Can't have that, denied.

The equivalent is alcohol being prohibited leading to everyone drinking 180 proof smuggled moonshine that makes you go blind.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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I agree with this. I hang out at this one bar and this 22 year old I talk to really thinks he "gets it." Incredibly cocky and arrogant a lot of times. He's fun to talk to but when he get's on a major BS kick I gotta tune him out. I'm only 5 years older than him but the contrast in experiences is stark to say the least. It really makes me wonder if I was ever that arrogant too.

Patronization is a strong suit many people (including myself) have nicely ironed at all times in our closet. Nothing is more fun than to put that suit on. The question is, can we tolerate flawed people? Can we laugh about it? Can we let them rant and wear that suit from time to time?

I applaud the creativity, but the phrase “strong suit” originated from bridge and refers to a different kind of suit.

I realize I’m probably being patronizing myself by pointing that out. As Bart Simpson once said, “The ironing is delicious.”

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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There have been other studies. Here's a summary.[1] From the current data, we can conclude that the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) component of cannabis can be the main culprit causing psychosis and schizophrenia in the at-risk population. THC can also be the one exacerbating symptoms and causing an adverse prognosis in already diagnosed patients. Even though CBD shows therapeutic effects and THC opposing effects, the da…

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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This literally reads like a stoner in denial

So you don't want to check some facts, you want to stick to your personal opinion, is that what you're saying?

It's your obligation to prove me wrong, not me prove myself wrong.
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