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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
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#342I’m a big proponent of marijuana. I recommend it to others almost as a rite of passage and I’m eager to see a world where marijuana use trumps alcohol consumption. But I admit that it’s not without risk. I like to think I am of stable mind. I have never had a drug experience that had overwhelmed my sense of self or being. I have a couple times felt overwhelmed physically, to the point of exhaustion, but my mind kept…
Alcohol consumption is not without risk. It literally kills your brain cells and has many negative side effects associated with it. Alcohol is widely produced, distributed and consumed. To me this comes down to having the choice. Do the research, document the possible side effect, give me the choice is I want to drink/do the drug. Also, anecdotally based on my own life experience, I think overall marijuana is less ha…
This doesn't even take into account the damage it does to your body's insulin resistance and blood sugar levels. Alcohol is damaging on a systemic level that most people never consider.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am pro legalization because I think people should get to make their own decisions about what they put in their own bodies, but I definitely agree that this aspect of marijuana use is somewhat downplayed by many of its advocates. Anecdotally, I have seen several marijuana-using friends go down the tubes. One became extremely paranoid to the point he was unable to maintain relationships with the people around him (be…
"One became extremely paranoid to the point he was unable to maintain relationships with the people around him" I would bet you anything that this person was using a high-potency grade of cannabis and/or smoking a lot of it. If they just used a little bit of a low-potency strain it's unlikely they would have suffered from paranoia. "several others became extremely unpleasant and irritable when they weren't high on th…
The reality is that many people in legal weed states consume cannabis via edibles these days. Manufacturing techniques have greatly improved in the past couple of years and they aren't nearly as gross tasting as they used to be, often they have almost no weed taste at all.
Edibles are usually highly opaque in terms of the strains used and tend to contain at least 5mg THC per dose, sometimes 10, and that's if you trust what's on the label. Due to how edibles are metabolized, the THC remains in your system for longer, too.
You no longer need to "smoke a lot" to consume a great deal of THC, a couple of edibles will do the job. A lot of edible fans don't smoke or vape at all.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
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Exactly. The narrative of the "stronger, more dangerous(!) weed" falls short because consumers have always, and will always, micro-dose. That's just the human way to do it. You don't drink 1l of water when you are thirsty, you drink until the body tells you it is enough. You don't eat until the food is empty (ok well, sometimes we do..), you eat until you are full. I find it disappointing the same'ol propaganda reapp…
I find it disappointing and disheartening that you are dismissing peer-reviewed studies as "propaganda". Your argumentation is not that different from the one used by climate change deniers. The first study is commissioned by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction and the second was funded by a Senior Academic Fellowship from the Society for the Study of Addiction.
Neither your ad hominem attacks, nor "peer reviewed", nor the implied credibility of the funding impresses me in the slightest...
You think state or commision funded studies cannot be biased?
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
"One became extremely paranoid to the point he was unable to maintain relationships with the people around him" I would bet you anything that this person was using a high-potency grade of cannabis and/or smoking a lot of it. If they just used a little bit of a low-potency strain it's unlikely they would have suffered from paranoia. "several others became extremely unpleasant and irritable when they weren't high on th…
Well, they used to be nicer before they started smoking a lot. Then they developed a newer, more irritable personality, which only lifted when they were high. In my experience the same sort of thing can happen with alcoholics.
Worth nothing here that both alcohol and cannabis can compromise sleep quality, and poor quality sleep is very well known to make people irritable and paranoid. I've definitely gotten in this trap before when using them as sleep aids.
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#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of marijuana smokers like to pretend weed smoke is somehow less harmful than any other smoke. It's still CO whether it comes from the tobacco or hemp plant. It's still bad and creates a tar residue in your lungs. Any time I bring that up, somehow I become anti-pot even though it's a genuine concern. Edit: Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide. And some additions since this is a tad controversial. Here is one sour…
Weed actually contains anti-inflammatory and anti-carcinogenic components, that's why people say it is healthier then other plants when inhaled. I'm not making this up, please look for it yourself if you care for the full picture and are genuinely interested as to why people say that.
This literally reads like a stoner in denial
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with this. I hang out at this one bar and this 22 year old I talk to really thinks he "gets it." Incredibly cocky and arrogant a lot of times. He's fun to talk to but when he get's on a major BS kick I gotta tune him out. I'm only 5 years older than him but the contrast in experiences is stark to say the least. It really makes me wonder if I was ever that arrogant too.
Patronization is a strong suit many people (including myself) have nicely ironed at all times in our closet. Nothing is more fun than to put that suit on. The question is, can we tolerate flawed people? Can we laugh about it? Can we let them rant and wear that suit from time to time?
It's fine if you dont act like you know how I should operate my life.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#348Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#349Could it be that schizophrenics are more likely to partake marijuana? Since it is a mental disorder and tends to run in families, the underlying genetics may predispose such people to marijuana, or marijuana may have a stronger effect on such people. That is, a strong correlation should result in a deeper look at this connection rather than directly influence marijuana legalization.
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#350Long time lurker here. Not sure if this helps the discussion but have actual first hand experience with this. I was a heavy user of marijuana (extremely heavy I would say) from my late 20s to my early 30s. One day in those 30s (combined with significant physical effort that day and heat) smoking my umpteenth spliff of the day led to a complete blackout on a public sidewalk. From that point I began experiencing persistent auditory hallucinations and was eventually diagnosed as schizoaffective. I had no prior expression of schizophrenia and no family history that I am aware of (though there are clearly other family members with some psychological disorders). It is roughly 4 years since the last time I touched marijuana and the auditory hallucinations persist. Still in favor of legalization, but, as with overconsumption of practically anything, it should probably come with clear awareness of the risks involved.