Windows 11 really is shaping up to be the vista version. Look forward to windows 12 which will have all the good features without the annoying ones.
Microsoft really has a lock on the good-bad-good cadence.
Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
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Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#52Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.
No version of Windows released in the 90s supported anything like this, and I'd love for you to give actual examples of any features that have been lost.
That being said, removing this feature is a terrible decision and I'm not happy to hear about it.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I worked on the Windows Core UX team. If you think this is an engineering led decision, you have had a different experience with large software organizations than I have. Even with the Windows 8 UX changes, our most senior engineers were up in arms in open protest and they STILL went through with it. This is a Product led decision.
>This is a Product led decision. I've never worked at Microsoft, but have worked at other large software companies. This is 100% a design decision. Engineers like buttons, shortcuts, neat tricks, test tools, secret options, lots of menus, etc.
I also think this is a fairly sensible design decision.
I personally would expect dragging a file to the dock would put the file on the dock, rather than trying to open the file in whatever app you dragged it onto.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#54Didn't even know you could do that. Maybe Microsoft's Telemetry figured out that not many people knew it also.
Vision from a small group of individuals who care always beats just trying to scry design from looking at metrics, even when the metrics are millions.
The problem is, the "small group" is also the same small group who figures out how to disable or firewall the telemetry. So their use cases end up being ignored completely.
That's the downside to force-feeding telemetry to everybody without respecting individual user preferences. Some people won't like that, and will find workarounds to disable it. While those clearly aren't the users you need to pay the most attention to, they are among the users that you least want to ignore or disenfranchise.
The irony being that if telemetry had been voluntary, most of us would never have bothered turning it off.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#55> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.
Lots of companies will refuse to let you choose an environment, or only offer a Mac. Not everyone can switch jobs over an OS, so those people are stuck.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#56There are two issues here: 1. The task bar, application, and process metaphor in Windows is not conducive to drag-and-drop onto taskbar items. Dropping onto an exe would start a process and pass the file as an argument, but doing this onto a window doesn't make sense. Does it start a new process from the file the window's existing process is based on? This would rely on that program recognizing it's already running a…
Regarding 2, we’re rapidly approaching the expiration date on any relevant patents from the early 00s. I wonder what software will look like 10 years from now when all the great ideas can be commoditized…
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#57> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.
Mac wont be a choice for much longer, the writing on the wall is obvious that MacOS is on it's way to being deprecated. Within 10 years the desktop Mac experience will be closer to iPadOS than MacOS of today.
Aren't they doing the complete opposite by, for example, not adding touchscreen to Macs and handicapping iPadOS on purpose so that it can't be used for real work despite having an M1?
They benefit way more from selling multiple devices for different purposes than they would from selling "THE" ultimate device.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#58It reminds me during the last win10 update they added that stupid weather widget on the task bar.
Best part is, that “feature” doesn’t exist in windows 11, they rolled that out knowing it would be gone in 6 months. Someone in marketing needed their win.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#59Didn't even know you could do that. Maybe Microsoft's Telemetry figured out that not many people knew it also.
It does seem weird to me because I think of dragging on to the taskbar creating a shortcut. It isn't necessarily incompatible with dragging onto an existing icon to open but the on/between difference always seemed a bit small for me.
Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop
#60Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.
If you want to feel really sad, go install a bootleg copy of 2000/XP on a vm and do some basic computering. Just opening the start menu may drive some of you to tears when you realize what we have lost.