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Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#41
This was genuinely one of the more intuitive parts of the task bar. Although I'm aware that you can pin applications to the task bar by right clicking. I surely hope they give alternative ways to pin stuff.

But in the article, here's what's pissing me off:

> In Windows 11, the taskbar lost some other quite popular features users enjoyed in Windows 10. For example, you can no longer move the taskbar to the top, right, or left.

Now I'm not a user of this feature. But in my immediate circle, no less than 6 of the many people I know work with windows (maybe 30 folks ?) use the task bar on the left or right (they have different monitor setups)

Sure, it's at best anecdotal, not very significant, but it's been there since the dawn of Windows ... That's really bound to piss off some people

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on the Windows Core UX team. If you think this is an engineering led decision, you have had a different experience with large software organizations than I have. Even with the Windows 8 UX changes, our most senior engineers were up in arms in open protest and they STILL went through with it. This is a Product led decision.

Then how about walking out en masse? Either that or accept co-responsibility.

I no longer work on Windows or at Microsoft. I expect most engineers don't care enough about Windows to lose their livelihood over it. However many of us did leave the organization after that release.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#43

Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.

At this point I'd pay a massive sum to have Win2k back. Easily the high point of OS design.

https://reactos.org

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#44

> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.

If there's one thing that all the bad news coming about Windows are not capable of, is me switching to mac. I've used it daily for work for years, and I still hate everything about it except the shell (even that, at times...)

I'd be happy with Linux but I never had the time/inclination to ensure my games work there. Win11's taskbar might just get me to find out.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#45

> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.

I'm with you, in concept. I stopped using Windows on any of my personal machines back around the Win 98 days.

Unfortunately, my employer makes me use it at work, so I can't really avoid it.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on the Windows Core UX team. If you think this is an engineering led decision, you have had a different experience with large software organizations than I have. Even with the Windows 8 UX changes, our most senior engineers were up in arms in open protest and they STILL went through with it. This is a Product led decision.

>This is a Product led decision. I've never worked at Microsoft, but have worked at other large software companies. This is 100% a design decision. Engineers like buttons, shortcuts, neat tricks, test tools, secret options, lots of menus, etc.

Initial designs, sure. When it comes to making trade-offs in features and functionality vs ship dates then that falls into the realm of a Product Manager.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#48
I just want to be able to drag taskbar items around in the taskbar like I can with Chrome tabs.

7+ Taskbar Tweaker lets you do this in Windows 10, even breaking out of window groups. XFCE lets you do it out of the box. XFCE does also let you drag files to the taskbar item to activate that window, which I do occasionally. I already switched to Manjaro everywhere for work though, so Microsoft can do whatever they want. Windows machines are just for games and watching streams in my house.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#49

For me the inability to move the taskbar on the left side would be a no go. Vertical space on a 16:9 monitor is too precious. Maybe this will be the time I finally rotate my monitor

It would be hilarious if the taskbar remained on the long side of the monitor after you rotate it. Given these baffling changes, I might not even be surprised.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#50

I've never once in all my years of using Windows dragged a file onto an application in the taskbar to open that file. I didn't even know that was a thing you could do until this post.

I use it daily for copying files, since you can effectively select a window from behind other windows just by hovering over the task bar icon. It's gonna suck having to rearrange windows before this otherwise simple task can be completed.
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