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Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

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There are two issues here: 1. The task bar, application, and process metaphor in Windows is not conducive to drag-and-drop onto taskbar items. Dropping onto an exe would start a process and pass the file as an argument, but doing this onto a window doesn't make sense. Does it start a new process from the file the window's existing process is based on? This would rely on that program recognizing it's already running and sending a message the other instance to open the dropped file then exit. If a program isn't document-oriented, this could be even harder to tell what to do. Theoretically windows could send a drop message to the process passing the window handle...

2. I vaguely recall a patent issue in the 2000s around this issue. At the time, lots of drag-and-drop actions resulted in explicit error messages indicating Microsoft knew what the user wanted to do but that it wasn't able to respond as the user intended. I quickly searched for the patent but could not find it.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#22

> If this controversial change frustrates you, as well as thousands of other insiders, make sure to send your feedback to Microsoft. Or, just don't use windows 11. I certainly won't. I'm only using win10 as it is because they don't care if you use an unauthorized copy for free. At this point my camel's back is a needle away from switching to linux/mac.

I'm not sure this change is reason enough to give up possibly decades of experience with Windows. Switching platforms can slow your work down for months if you have a unique and optimized workflow.

I think that's what parent is saying: just stay on Windows 10 and you won't have to deal with switching to anything, including the flaming garbage heap of Windows 11.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#23

Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.

I worked on the Windows Core UX team. If you think this is an engineering led decision, you have had a different experience with large software organizations than I have.

Even with the Windows 8 UX changes, our most senior engineers were up in arms in open protest and they STILL went through with it.

This is a Product led decision.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#24

I've never once in all my years of using Windows dragged a file onto an application in the taskbar to open that file. I didn't even know that was a thing you could do until this post.

I use it a lot for file uploads in web browser.

A good (only?) workaround is using alt tab but if you have many open programs it can be quite annoying.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#25

Drag and drop was already abysmal on Windows compared to MacOS, things I take for granted on MacOS like dragging an image from a web browser to a photoshop document just don't work. This is just another kick in the teeth for people who find this a fast and flexible way to work.

What programs did you use? It works fine with Firefox on Win 10. When dragging an image from Microsoft Edge to another program though, it shows a "No drop" cursor.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac wont be a choice for much longer, the writing on the wall is obvious that MacOS is on it's way to being deprecated. Within 10 years the desktop Mac experience will be closer to iPadOS than MacOS of today.

> writing on the wall is obvious that MacOS is on it's way to being deprecated I must have my back turned. Where is this wall? Apple seems to be investing quite heavily into its Mac line-up, including by differentiating it from iOS devices.

I think the biggest danger for the developer crowd is that Apple locks down MacOS so much that our tools and workflows become more limited and difficult to use. I'm not saying that will happen, but it seems more possible today than it did five years ago.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#27

Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.

Actually, its the product managers. Us, software “professionals” dont even like windows. You are barking at the wrong tree.

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#28

Welcome to the glorious future everyone, where our computers are less featureful than they were in the 1990s. Could all of you "professional" software "engineers" out there please just stop sucking so damned hard? You're making me deeply ashamed to be a part of this industry.

What does that have to do with software engineers? I highly doubt any of the software engineers just up and decided to remove the feature one day on a whim. Someone outside of software engineering likely came up with the idea. Do you expect people to quit over removing drag and drop on the task bar?

Re: Microsoft confirms taskbar in Windows 11 no longer supports drag and drop

#29
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The lack of vertical taskbar is so mind bogglingly stupid, I don't know what to say.

What? If that's true, they've gone completely insane. I know non 16:9 panels have been making a resurgence but most panels will be portrait for a while.

Besides, windows has had the best vertical taskbar implementation from all DEs since 95.

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