Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools • Hacker News Board

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by andrewzah » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #67

KronisLV wrote: post #50

Some additional ideas: - Kanban - Kanboard ( https://github.com/kanboard/kanboard ) - Analytics - Matomo ( https://github.com/matomo-org/matomo ) - Content Management System - Grav ( https://github.com/getgrav/grav ) - Knowledge Base - BookStack ( https://github.com/BookStackApp/BookStack ) - Browser - Firefox ( https://github.com/mozilla ) - Image Manipulation ( https://github.com/GNOME/gimp ) - Observability Platfo…

Bitwarden for password manager also. They specifically endorse enterprise usage. https://bitwarden.com/

For selfhosting bitwarden, I recommend vaultwarden [0] (previously known as bitwarden_rs).

[0]: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by yellowapple » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 10:25 PM UTC

curtis3389 wrote: post #106

skyfaller wrote: post #90

Some of these "open source" options are not really open source. - Outline uses the Business Source License 1.1, which eventually becomes open source (Apache 2) four years after each release. https://github.com/outline/outline/blob/main/LICENSE - Invoice Ninja uses Elastic License 2.0 (ELv2), which allows you to host it for yourself, but not for other people. https://github.com/invoiceninja/invoiceninja/blob/master/LI…

I'm actually not sure if the 2 cases you cited actually violate the OSI's Open Source Definition: https://opensource.org/docs/osd Anyone care to clarify? I know that open source != free software, and you can read about that on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#Open_source_as_a_t...

IIRC the OSI has outright stated that the Elastic License ain't open source. Not sure about that first one, though.

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by meepybub » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 2:36 AM UTC

deeptichopra wrote: post #52

meepybub wrote: post #30

FYI, the github link on each product page does not work. Also, it would be a useful feature to see the license each product has without having to go to it's github and scroll down.

Thanks for pointing this out- fixed the Github link issue. It shows the license under the "Github Activity" section.

It could be another bug but i am not seeing the license under github activity, i'm on Brave and i am signed into github if that helps.

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by kaloryfer » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 6:51 AM UTC

rozenmd wrote: post #21

artemonster wrote: post #16

Everytime I look into B2B software space (I am a complete outsider, btw), I see that here and there always pop up some new company, offering something similar to competitors and what can be stiched together using open source (and almost free, not counting the support) tools. How these companies thrive? Why customers keep buying new stuff, when there are solutions already to most of the business neeeds out there (and…

I built a website monitoring service (last I checked, 191 alternatives on AlternativeTo). Customers really really really don't want to have to run their own solution. They want to be able to pay someone to make the pain go away. ( https://onlineornot.com if you're curious)

"Rated 5 stars by the founder, and his mates" that's so funny. ;)

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by datagram » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 6:15 PM UTC

Under Computer-Aided Design, I'd might be worth adding OpenSCAD? https://openscad.org/

I'm not sure how it stacks up in the business space, but as a programmer that has to do some 3D modeling from time to time it's been great.

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by stephane-klein » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

federation wrote: post #103

dotCOMmie wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looker / Tableau alternative - Redash ( https://redash.io/ )

Set to be end of life in November after Databricks Acquired it. Try Superset / Preset https://preset.io/

Do you have an opinion about https://github.com/metabase/metabase ?

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by ASalazarMX » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:49 PM UTC

xtracto wrote: post #99

pembrook wrote: post #55

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I think a good way to get an understanding of this is to start a company yourself. You’ll quickly learn why businesses make the decision to pay for software instead of cobbling together open source. Let’s say you’re a small, but growing company doing $2M ARR. You absolutely could run your email marketing using an open source tool hooked up to Amazon SES and save a thousand bucks a month over something like Mailchimp.…

Let me give you a counterpoint on this: non-developed countries (non 1st world countires?). A startup in say, Mexico or LatAm will look at the OpenSource version of say Business Intelligence applications (Metabase, Superset in the link), then look at the commercial versions of them (Tableau, Lookr). With the price needed to pay for the commercial versions, the startup can hire 2 or 3 developers (at local rates) to do…

Mexican here. We used to run our own mail server ten years ago: it was fast, each mailbox had a lot of space, we ran our own mail campaigns, in general it was awesome... until it wasn't.

Doing your own maintenance, antivirus, spam detection can be a demanding job, but getting out of a blacklist is ten times worse. We gladly pay Google Workspaces to leave that suffering to the specialists, we couldn't do it better if we tried our best.

You either pay with time and work, or you pay with money. Sometimes spending the money is the better trade off.

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by pzduniak » Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 9:57 AM UTC

pembrook wrote: post #73

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #69

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> If it wastes 8 hours of employee time per month, that’s another $1k a month lost… it’ll require expensive developer time (likely costing the company $1000-$1500/day per engineer all-in) That's not universally true, of course. That money would buy you a week of developer time in most of Europe, and even a month of developer time in some developing economies.

> That money would buy you a week of developer time in most of Europe That's only true if you live in Poland and also ignore the all-in cost of your employees. A good rule of thumb is to assume 2-3x salary for the all-in cost of having a workforce.

Most engineers in Poland prefer anything BUT full time employment, so all-in the tax for engineering work is like 8.5%/19% with a ~$120/mo mandatory health insurance. They'd rather get hired as freelancers and pay less taxes (and burn less money contributing to the broken social security system).

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by justinclift » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 1:53 AM UTC

federation wrote: post #103

dotCOMmie wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looker / Tableau alternative - Redash ( https://redash.io/ )

Set to be end of life in November after Databricks Acquired it. Try Superset / Preset https://preset.io/

Don't count Redash out yet. ;)

Although Databricks acquired it and is EOL-ing the hosted platform at the end of November, the main piece people care about and use is OSS.

There are people working to spin up a new hosted platform around that OSS piece, to continue things on and provide continuity to existing users.

Saying that as I'm one of the people involved, and used to work for Redash prior to the Databricks acquisition.

Re: Open-source alternatives to popular B2B tools

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Post by neop1x » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:31 AM UTC

datagram wrote: post #125

Under Computer-Aided Design, I'd might be worth adding OpenSCAD? https://openscad.org/ I'm not sure how it stacks up in the business space, but as a programmer that has to do some 3D modeling from time to time it's been great.

Maybe also KiCAD but that is more ECAD/EDA. Great tool though!