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Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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MySQL 5.6 was released on 5 February 2013 . MySQL 8.0 was released on 19 April 2018 . >The 8.0 migration has taken a few years so far. We have converted many of our InnoDB replica sets to running entirely on 8.0. At the scale of Facebook I wonder if they are the largest MySQL user on the planet. And I take this opportunity to ask, does anyone know how does the MySQL roadmap works? What sort of features are coming or…

Youtube also use MySQL.

Wow. Why don't they use in-house Google databases, which are supposedly vastly more scalable than MySQL?

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It's interesting to see FB migrating so much over to Oracle. 2 weeks ago was FB use of GraalVM (from Oracle). And now this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27782475

I guess one could dream of the remote possibility that Facebook outright acquires Oracle. It seems like a weird match, but it'd give FB a toehold in a lot of verticals that it currently has no presence in. Whatever criticisms you have of FB, it's at least a pretty open source friendly company.

What would happen to Oracle's infamous legal department then?

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It's interesting to see FB migrating so much over to Oracle. 2 weeks ago was FB use of GraalVM (from Oracle). And now this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27782475

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

> Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS

Tell us more. Ignore the haters please. I'd love to have your insights.

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Youtube also use MySQL.

Wow. Why don't they use in-house Google databases, which are supposedly vastly more scalable than MySQL?

Probably because a lot of those benefits don't actually translate that well towards their problem space. These aren't a bunch of 20 year olds throwing together a MongoDB, they're professionals using tools to actually make a product

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The hair on my neck still stands up when thinking about dealing with Oracle (and Sun) contracting, purchasing, and sales teams in the 90's.

Don't forget IBM

Agree. I have used IBM web sphere in 2008. IBM, Oracle, Sun is a tribe.

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Youtube also use MySQL.

Wow. Why don't they use in-house Google databases, which are supposedly vastly more scalable than MySQL?

Because there is a substantial cost to such migrations. If it works don't fix it.

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Only commenting to say their site makes me mad cause it breaks the browser history. I click the link, go to the fb engineering site, and the back button has no history to go back to HN. Dark Pattern UX -- gross.

Tried with clean profile Firefox and Chromium. Back button works fine with both.

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Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

I find the comments in this article very accurate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15160149 > ORA is the elephant's graveyard of software. > Once something gets bought by them, you know it is done. Slowly, but surely. > They perform a function akin to the maggots that destroy cadavers in nature. Part of the overall ecosystem. > ORA stopped being a tech co a while ago, now it is a finance play. Use cash to buy a…

This is such a hilariously myopic HN take.

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Only commenting to say their site makes me mad cause it breaks the browser history. I click the link, go to the fb engineering site, and the back button has no history to go back to HN. Dark Pattern UX -- gross.

Can’t confirm. It works exactly as expected in Firefox (private mode because FB links open in the FB container otherwise), so maybe it’s some extension you have installed? FB Engineering links are usually pretty clean, and they don’t even have a reason to try and keep you there.

Yeah if you're using Firefox and you have the FB Container, it's working as advertised
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