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Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Only commenting to say their site makes me mad cause it breaks the browser history. I click the link, go to the fb engineering site, and the back button has no history to go back to HN. Dark Pattern UX -- gross.

Can’t confirm. It works exactly as expected in Firefox (private mode because FB links open in the FB container otherwise), so maybe it’s some extension you have installed? FB Engineering links are usually pretty clean, and they don’t even have a reason to try and keep you there.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

I find the comments in this article very accurate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15160149 > ORA is the elephant's graveyard of software. > Once something gets bought by them, you know it is done. Slowly, but surely. > They perform a function akin to the maggots that destroy cadavers in nature. Part of the overall ecosystem. > ORA stopped being a tech co a while ago, now it is a finance play. Use cash to buy a…

This is not so with Java. They have moved Java along a lot since they bought it; they released 1.8 finally, and have introduced lots of new features such as type inference since then.

MySQL is also going strong after the acquisition. Lots of new features.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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My old-man brain still can't compute this statement: "MySQL, an open source database developed by Oracle" . I know this is now factually true, but late-90s me keeps looking over my shoulder and freaking out.

The hair on my neck still stands up when thinking about dealing with Oracle (and Sun) contracting, purchasing, and sales teams in the 90's.

I dealt with them in 2016. I assure you, not much has changed.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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My old-man brain still can't compute this statement: "MySQL, an open source database developed by Oracle" . I know this is now factually true, but late-90s me keeps looking over my shoulder and freaking out.

The hair on my neck still stands up when thinking about dealing with Oracle (and Sun) contracting, purchasing, and sales teams in the 90's.

Don't forget IBM

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Anyone else puzzled by the shaking migration animation? The original file has a 1920x1080 resolution. I wonder if it is related to the shaking. Good article nevertheless.

I see it too. It's weird and distracting — something must have gone wrong in the rendering.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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can it do DDL commands in a transaction yet?

I always see people asking about this. But why? Are you making schema changes that frequently?

Schema changes are pretty much the riskiest damn thing you can do with a database, so it's natural people would be extremely interested in being able to confine as much of that as possible to transactions, even if changes are rare (which, arguably, they're rare in no small part because they're so risky).

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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My old-man brain still can't compute this statement: "MySQL, an open source database developed by Oracle" . I know this is now factually true, but late-90s me keeps looking over my shoulder and freaking out.

I just configured a new router and had to set up my dynamic DNS updating service on it.

Went to dyn.com and the goddamn website is gone, redirects to some corporate Oracle bullshit and PR, and I can't login to that Oracle crap with my dyn.com account and password.

In case any confused people googling for this stumble upon this comment you need to go to: account.dyn.com which they don't tell you on the Oracle page.

You can log in there with your former dyn.com credentials.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

I find the comments in this article very accurate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15160149 > ORA is the elephant's graveyard of software. > Once something gets bought by them, you know it is done. Slowly, but surely. > They perform a function akin to the maggots that destroy cadavers in nature. Part of the overall ecosystem. > ORA stopped being a tech co a while ago, now it is a finance play. Use cash to buy a…

And yet MySQL is very much alive..? Java has fully opensource implementations too, and has had innovations like GraalVM and Jakarta EE.

I think I'm too young to hate Oracle with a burning passion. I would be very scared of their sales/corporate team, but I mean, even having large contracts with Google or Amazon is difficult to say the least.

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