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Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Anyone else puzzled by the shaking migration animation? The original file has a 1920x1080 resolution. I wonder if it is related to the shaking. Good article nevertheless.

If you look closely, you can see the engineers nervously rolling out changes to production, which is where the vibrations in the .gif come from.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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>It took a couple of years to complete porting all of these features. By the time we got to the end, we had evaluated more than 2,300 patches and ported 1,500 of those to 8.0.

This is some tremendous effort as I see. I wonder how many people work on these evaluations.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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It's interesting to see FB migrating so much over to Oracle. 2 weeks ago was FB use of GraalVM (from Oracle). And now this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27782475

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

I find the comments in this article very accurate:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15160149

> ORA is the elephant's graveyard of software.

> Once something gets bought by them, you know it is done. Slowly, but surely.

> They perform a function akin to the maggots that destroy cadavers in nature. Part of the overall ecosystem.

> ORA stopped being a tech co a while ago, now it is a finance play. Use cash to buy a business for its locked in customers, gut it to squeeze max money out of it until last customer is gone. Rinse, repeat.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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It's interesting to see FB migrating so much over to Oracle. 2 weeks ago was FB use of GraalVM (from Oracle). And now this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27782475

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

Totally off topic, but I found it funny that in the offical oracle cloud intro video the robot arm in the background misses the box, right as the narrator mentions the advantages of automation at 1:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_BDfMdGn3M&t=61s

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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My old-man brain still can't compute this statement: "MySQL, an open source database developed by Oracle" . I know this is now factually true, but late-90s me keeps looking over my shoulder and freaking out.

The hair on my neck still stands up when thinking about dealing with Oracle (and Sun) contracting, purchasing, and sales teams in the 90's.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oracle has a very complete and much cheaper cloud solution relative to AWS. I've begun migrating my own projects over to their cloud. The savings on egress costs alone pays dividends.

Tying yourself to Oracle is quite a risky choice in my opinion. After having used their non cloud products 10 years ago, I wouldn't do any business with them. At all.

I'd say the same about Facebook.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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It's interesting to see FB migrating so much over to Oracle. 2 weeks ago was FB use of GraalVM (from Oracle). And now this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27782475

I guess one could dream of the remote possibility that Facebook outright acquires Oracle. It seems like a weird match, but it'd give FB a toehold in a lot of verticals that it currently has no presence in. Whatever criticisms you have of FB, it's at least a pretty open source friendly company.

Re: Migrating Facebook to MySQL 8.0

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Anyone else puzzled by the shaking migration animation? The original file has a 1920x1080 resolution. I wonder if it is related to the shaking. Good article nevertheless.

It has ?w=1024 causing resizing effects:

Shaking: https://engineering.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/CD21_3...

Not shaking: https://engineering.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/CD21_3...

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