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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#102I have some experience with this. My first wife was diagnosed with schizophrenia after birthing a stillborn baby. This was about 14 month after we had our first child. One of her doctors insisted the cause was marijuana, but she really did smoke much at all. I did most everyday though and one of the first questions he asked was if we used it. I told him I thought it was caused by losing the baby and he insisted that…
"One of her doctors insisted the cause was marijuana..."
"I knew for sure he was wrong, but he refused to even consider it... [even with family history]."
I have seen stuff like this a few times, and it is usually the sign of a bad doctor. If there isn't a positive test for something and you're ignoring other evidence, how can you say it absolutely is one thing or the other. This is extremely common with vaccines when providers say it is completely safe and write off adverse events as unrelated without any evidence to support the claim. Vaccines are generally safe, but adverse reactions can occur. If you have doctors underreporting to the VAERS system, then the system will not catch the rare events because the data is too incomplete to show significance.
Edit: why downvote? Here's a paper acknowledging limitations like under reporting. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15071280/
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#103I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.
nah. it’s not a common sentiment.
people talk about set and setting + harm reduction over and over again.
If you’re gonna do a drug and be reckless you’re gonna have a bad time.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#104No understood method that marijuana could possibly cause the condition check. Trivially comprehensible in terms of increasing usage or increasing admission of usage check.
> our findings will have to be replicated elsewhere
Check
> "long-observed association between cannabis and schizophrenia is likely partially causal in nature,"
Weasel words.
If they had printed their article on toilet paper at least it would be good for something.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#105I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.
A lot of marijuana smokers like to pretend weed smoke is somehow less harmful than any other smoke. It's still CO whether it comes from the tobacco or hemp plant. It's still bad and creates a tar residue in your lungs. Any time I bring that up, somehow I become anti-pot even though it's a genuine concern. Edit: Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide. And some additions since this is a tad controversial. Here is one sour…
one word: edibles
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#106I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.
Just as a counter-anecdote. There's depression and anxiety in my family tree, and it has caught up to me too in the last year. Among other remedies, I've experimented with small doses of edibles (they are legal where I live). I don't particularly enjoy the high, but for me it does take the edge off the worst times, without side effects. It lets me at least relax/sleep. (It kind of takes the edge off everything, which is why I don't like it and don't do it recreationally.)
I think this is very much a YMMV situation. I certainly don't recommend it as the only solution. It has been useful to me as a medicine, though, in the same way I might take a cough suppressant during a serious cold.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#107>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found. Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking mari…
To me it's about as strong as the correlation between schizophrenia and _any_ use of psychedelics. THC's effects have more in common with a psychedelic than they do an analgesic or stimulant. It's not a body drug, even if it sometimes makes you feel that way. If we legalized psilocybin nationwide, I would bet money that these kinds of studies would show "correlations" in schizophrenia use among those who have taken mushrooms as well. And they would probably be the similar, if not follow the same exact curve, as what we see for MJ.
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#1081) THC to CBD ratio in Cannabis has been intentionally increased in favor of THC. 2) Cannabis is more and more cut with synthetic cannabinoids which are notoriously bad for the brain and mind. 3) Long-term Cannabis use is not evenly distributed but focused on people with a certain personality open for such an experience. 4) Cannabis has been and still is illegal in most places. That alone will foster a tendency for p…
> Cannabis is more and more cut with synthetic cannabinoids which are notoriously bad for the brain and mind.
Do you have a link to support that?
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#109No understood method that marijuana could possibly cause the condition check. Trivially comprehensible in terms of increasing usage or increasing admission of usage check. > our findings will have to be replicated elsewhere Check > "long-observed association between cannabis and schizophrenia is likely partially causal in nature," Weasel words. If they had printed their article on toilet paper at least it would be go…
Rolling papers might be a better medium.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#110So, more schizophrenic people are self-medicating with marijuana now that it's more readily available?
I'm speaking as a medical student. And I can't speak for what it's like in the US - only Sweden. Here it's not uncommon for schizofrenic patients to self medicate with marijuana. I guess it increases their quality of life until they have just a little too much and end up having a psychosis. That said, at least among Swedish psychiatrists, it's well know that marijuana can trigger schizophrenia in people that are ~16 years old.