During brain development ~< 25, I recommend against indulging in marijuana. It is a psychoactive drug that can alter developmental growth processes with long-term consequences. Well into adulthood, expression of many of the genes regulating development are suppressed, and thus the means for structural change are more limited; thus adults tend to be more resilient to psychoactive exposures.
Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#42I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…
You've hit the nail on the head with my experience. I have noticed this with a brother who smoke daily.. I never really put it down to the marijuana use entirely, but more of an aversion to any kind of confrontation/disagreement that might make him second guess himself etc.
Personally I can't smoke it anymore, I get super anxious now and nervous. I don't enjoy it, but I can see why some people who enjoy it would rather avoid any kind of mental doubt/disagreements.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with this. I hang out at this one bar and this 22 year old I talk to really thinks he "gets it." Incredibly cocky and arrogant a lot of times. He's fun to talk to but when he get's on a major BS kick I gotta tune him out. I'm only 5 years older than him but the contrast in experiences is stark to say the least. It really makes me wonder if I was ever that arrogant too.
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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#44I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…
Same observation. I also smoked weed in my teens and early twenties and I remember it making some of the most banal horse shit ideas seem profound, or like I really understand how the universe clicked together. I bet hanging out with a bunch of stoners steeping in my own bullshit for another decade would make me a(n even more) pompous ass too.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#45Is correlation always causation?
No, but we are unlikely to find causation without initially noticing a correlation.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#46This would not surprise me at all. But I'm curious to know if they got the causation backwards. Maybe people with schizophrenia just have a higher likelihood of smoking marijuana
One of my high school friends developed severe schizophrenia in his 30s. Given hindsight it's clear to all of us that know him that some elements of it must have started all the way back at middle school. He was very into hallucinogens and doing his art, the themes of which are directly in line with his current delusions.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#47>> In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found.
Worded that way, causation isn't the first thing this suggests to me. If percentage of cases associated with marijuana rise, it could also be that a larger percentage of the population is smoking and admitting to smoking marijuana regularly. If cases themselves rise, it could also be increases in the percentage of cases that actually get diagnosed, etc.
It could very well be that marijuana puts you at higher risk of schizophrenia - I certainly have an acquaintance in mind for whom recreational drug usage seems to have led them to a paranoid and narcissistic personality described here in other comments - but the connection in this article feels weak. Certainly weaker than the connection we see between marijuana law enforcement and the negative fallout of that.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#48I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…
It is entirely possible that this is a misunderstanding of their true feelings or intents. To quote Kat Williams "Weed has a chemical in it called F*k it..." Maybe when they use they are not having the same anxious feeling that the general public feels and they do not react to others who otherwise might be perceived as "more important" than them. This would appear to the person who typically views themselves as "more…
I have a co-worker who I would described as mildly happy at all times and doesn't care about societal norms/ranking, but I never interpreted them to consider themselves superior to me. This doesn't jive with my understanding of mildly happy people.
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#49I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.
A lot of marijuana smokers like to pretend weed smoke is somehow less harmful than any other smoke. It's still CO whether it comes from the tobacco or hemp plant. It's still bad and creates a tar residue in your lungs. Any time I bring that up, somehow I become anti-pot even though it's a genuine concern. Edit: Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide. And some additions since this is a tad controversial. Here is one sour…
There's an abundance of ways to use it that don't involve smoking nowadays
Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds
#50Anecdotal however cannabis has many compounds, The two main ones are: THC and CBD. If your using a strain that has high THC and not much in CBD. CBD being the compound to safe-guard, governor the effects of THC you end up in a trip that can spiral out of control causing negative effects. If you add a CBD strain to the mix. Which are high in CBD and contain trace amounts of THC to your normal method usage, these tend…
I’m upvoting this.
I believe your explanation on the strains are on point.
When using the vapor method, very high in thc, sometimes I do experience psychosis or schizophrenic symptoms. My perception of reality does change a bit during peak affect but disappears after wearing off.
When smoking raw cannabis the regular way, I experience a more calming affect; emotionally tolerable and focused mindset.