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Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.

A lot of marijuana smokers like to pretend weed smoke is somehow less harmful than any other smoke. It's still CO whether it comes from the tobacco or hemp plant. It's still bad and creates a tar residue in your lungs. Any time I bring that up, somehow I become anti-pot even though it's a genuine concern. Edit: Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide. And some additions since this is a tad controversial. Here is one sour…

It is definitely still bad, but I think there is some truth there because tobacco tobacco is especially, extremely harmful.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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That just sounds like people in their 20s in general, even without weed. Marijuana might make it seem worse because stupid ideas sound much more profound when we're high

I agree with this. I hang out at this one bar and this 22 year old I talk to really thinks he "gets it." Incredibly cocky and arrogant a lot of times. He's fun to talk to but when he get's on a major BS kick I gotta tune him out. I'm only 5 years older than him but the contrast in experiences is stark to say the least. It really makes me wonder if I was ever that arrogant too.

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…

Yes, I've noticed something simila, although way I phrase it is I noticed among high marijauna users from teens to twenties was what is a sense of delayed maturity. This overlaps with the attributes you described but it also felt like they weren't able to accept the increasing responsibility to themselves and others that comes with growth out of adolesence. I accept this is just one lived experience and there are other possible confounding factors, but I've definiutely noticed it.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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This would not surprise me at all. But I'm curious to know if they got the causation backwards. Maybe people with schizophrenia just have a higher likelihood of smoking marijuana

I have long thought this for not just mental disorders...but also the long standing view that Marijuana use causes laziness or "makes you stupid". Perhaps these people have other issues they are self medicating for or have a higher probability of using illicit substances...for whatever reason they may be using it makes it easy to skew numbers to make it seem like the substance use is the cause, but to the user it may…

”Lazy and stupid” is a common outsider generalization of people with ADHD’s primarily inattentive variant.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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This would not surprise me at all. But I'm curious to know if they got the causation backwards. Maybe people with schizophrenia just have a higher likelihood of smoking marijuana

I'm curious about alcohol and tobacco usage as well. Tobacco usage in mentally ill has generally been higher. It could simply reflect over all trends in substance choices depending on availability. So many variables unaccounted for.

I have a disorder that affects perception (fortunately nothing as serious!) and nicotine absolutely helps with sensory gating. I quit smoking last year and my focus has really suffered for it.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious about alcohol and tobacco usage as well. Tobacco usage in mentally ill has generally been higher. It could simply reflect over all trends in substance choices depending on availability. So many variables unaccounted for.

I've heard it on good authority that schizophrenics find nicotine/tobacco significantly ameliorates their symptoms - it can be a lesser evil for some.

Well, tobacco smoke is full of MAO inhibitors. I would not be surprised if it was daily abuse of tobacco and coffee that were causing mental illness.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

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This would not surprise me at all. But I'm curious to know if they got the causation backwards. Maybe people with schizophrenia just have a higher likelihood of smoking marijuana

I'm curious about alcohol and tobacco usage as well. Tobacco usage in mentally ill has generally been higher. It could simply reflect over all trends in substance choices depending on availability. So many variables unaccounted for.

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Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

#39

I think it's too common a sentiment that psychoactive substances like cannabis and psilocybin are harmless and in fact are good for mental health. I've had adverse mental reactions to both and I would caution people with family history of anxiety.

A lot of marijuana smokers like to pretend weed smoke is somehow less harmful than any other smoke. It's still CO whether it comes from the tobacco or hemp plant. It's still bad and creates a tar residue in your lungs. Any time I bring that up, somehow I become anti-pot even though it's a genuine concern. Edit: Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide. And some additions since this is a tad controversial. Here is one sour…

And that is why engineers created the vaporizer.

Re: Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise, study finds

#40

I can only speak from personal experience, which is of course limited. I smoked occasionally in my 20s, but not since (I'm middle-aged now). I've been friends and acquaintances with many people that smoke a lot. I see a trend among these people - not necessarily schizophrenia (I'm not a psychologist and probably wouldn't even notice a mild case) - but instead a consistent arrogance and self-importance. It's peculiar…

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