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I think a good way to get an understanding of this is to start a company yourself. You’ll quickly learn why businesses make the decision to pay for software instead of cobbling together open source. Let’s say you’re a small, but growing company doing $2M ARR. You absolutely could run your email marketing using an open source tool hooked up to Amazon SES and save a thousand bucks a month over something like Mailchimp.…
This is where the maxim of open source being 'free as in puppies not free as in beer/lunch' comes from. I started my career in open source and still strongly believe in FOSS tenets, but enterprises are looking more to de-risk their projects and platforms. Risk is reduced when you have a vendor you can hold accountable for issues in the product, hence making proprietary solutions (and sometimes open source but wrapped…
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This is where the maxim of open source being 'free as in puppies not free as in beer/lunch' comes from. I started my career in open source and still strongly believe in FOSS tenets, but enterprises are looking more to de-risk their projects and platforms. Risk is reduced when you have a vendor you can hold accountable for issues in the product, hence making proprietary solutions (and sometimes open source but wrapped…
While I understand and generally agree with your points, I do find the idea of "holding a vendor accountable" to be more of a philosophy than something I've generally witnessed happen in real life. At some point that needs to stop being weighed on the scales when doing "build vs buy" math for any but the largest companies or most attentive vendors.
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I think a good way to get an understanding of this is to start a company yourself. You’ll quickly learn why businesses make the decision to pay for software instead of cobbling together open source. Let’s say you’re a small, but growing company doing $2M ARR. You absolutely could run your email marketing using an open source tool hooked up to Amazon SES and save a thousand bucks a month over something like Mailchimp.…
> If it wastes 8 hours of employee time per month, that’s another $1k a month lost… it’ll require expensive developer time (likely costing the company $1000-$1500/day per engineer all-in) That's not universally true, of course. That money would buy you a week of developer time in most of Europe, and even a month of developer time in some developing economies.
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Damn, I just built a web app that uses Cloudinary for image management and storage… Is this widely known? I use an adblocker and never saw the issue in dev.
But as you can see here, Cloudinary supports serving ads, So it'll be present in the private lists that are being used by a lot of ad-blockers. https://cloudinary.com/documentation/video_player_ads_moneti...
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> That money would buy you a week of developer time in most of Europe That's only true if you live in Poland and also ignore the all-in cost of your employees. A good rule of thumb is to assume 2-3x salary for the all-in cost of having a workforce.
I run a business and employ several software developers. What you are saying has absolutely not been my experience.
https://www.freelancermap.com/blog/freelance-market-study-ge...
Plus some management expenses, and it turns into around 1000 euros per delivery day for a FTE.
Then we can go to the companies doing high level consulting and pull some notches still.
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> If it wastes 8 hours of employee time per month, that’s another $1k a month lost… it’ll require expensive developer time (likely costing the company $1000-$1500/day per engineer all-in) That's not universally true, of course. That money would buy you a week of developer time in most of Europe, and even a month of developer time in some developing economies.
if you look at the numbers raw it might be salary for a week but assuming your developer has stuff on his/her plate and this stuff actually will make you more money in the long run (why would they be employed by you otherwise?) its more than their raw salary and the cost of hardware and rent. opportunity cost.
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I run a business and employ several software developers. What you are saying has absolutely not been my experience.
In Germany average consulting rates, run around 100 euros per hour. https://www.freelancermap.com/blog/freelance-market-study-ge... Plus some management expenses, and it turns into around 1000 euros per delivery day for a FTE. Then we can go to the companies doing high level consulting and pull some notches still.
The comment that I was replying to specifically referred to employee time per month. That's naturally going to be different from some high-rate consultant, so this is totally an apples-to-oranges comparison.
Furthermore, it's a large market and there are plenty of consultancies in Europe charging significantly less than that.
You're missing Drupal, one of the largest open-source CMS' in the world.
CMS: https://textpattern.com/about/
Plugins: https://textpattern.org/
This site’s curation is … eccentric. :-)
- Outline uses the Business Source License 1.1, which eventually becomes open source (Apache 2) four years after each release. https://github.com/outline/outline/blob/main/LICENSE
- Invoice Ninja uses Elastic License 2.0 (ELv2), which allows you to host it for yourself, but not for other people. https://github.com/invoiceninja/invoiceninja/blob/master/LIC...
Source code available is not the same thing as open source.