We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Chess is different in that the pieces are literally black and white in their color. Blacklist and whitelist are used as linguistic symbols: black==bad white==good. That is pretty different to me.
The lists are also referring to the concepts of literal black and literal white, not the skin colors.
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thinks the case of yelling fire in a movie theater jokingly
Yelling fire in a movie theater is perfectly legal and protected speech, even if false. It's only illegal if what is said is "likely to incite imminent lawless action," like a riot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_the... It's funny, this is often presented as a supporting example to limit citizens' free speech or other rights, typically paired with something along the lines of, "no freedom is…
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#264We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
If a human made the same mistake, we would call them incompetent, careless, and negligent. - incompetent system - incompetent robot - incompesys - incompebot - inept system - inept robot - inepsys - ineptobot - inepobot - bunglebot - hambot - sloppybot - careless system - careless robot - carelessys - carelessbot - neglisys - negligent robot - neglibot I like 'neglibot'. "YouTube neglibotted my video." "This is my ne…
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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I remember many years ago when colour schemes/UI themes were still called "skins", and forum discussions about them often yielded amusing racist-if-taken-out-of-context sentences like "do you like white or black skin" and "I have dark skin, but I prefer the white skin." Not a single person was offended or outraged, everyone saw the racial associations but clearly understood the context and was more amused than anythi…
Jokes that evoke racist hatred are not good, though. You don't actually know that NOBODY - literally you said that not a single person - was offended. Also, so what if someone was offended? Isn't that mostly irrelevant to this debate? The goal isn't to stop people from offending others, the goal of changing our speech is to reduce the unknown harm that words can do re: normalization of hatred of minorities. The 'joke…
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Because the pieces really are white and black, or light and dark. The list is not black.
But they are not naturally so. We decided to make them that way.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#270I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone makes the argument that this automated flagging is an indicator that chess's language is inadvertently racially charged. And think about the concept of "white goes first." All it takes is a few viral tweets, and suddenly the game of chess is in the crosshairs.
It's clearly racist that White plays first.