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First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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As a child, I would hear news reports talking about guerrilla attacks. It wasn't until I saw a Mad Magazine feature with a title along the lines of "if only the news meant what it sounded like" with a picture of gorillas attacking a city that I realized that they not gorilla attacks (I think it was a while longer still before I knew the word was guerrilla—I was a kid, OK?). This is the first sign that maybe the world…

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Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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post #13

> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…

Does writing off climate change as a factor seem a bit hasty?

Even if it’s just a one-off, terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-day event, one effect of changes in average local weather might be that many individuals are more stressed.

Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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post #13

> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…

If you want public funding in Germany, you better make sure that you cover either diversity or climate change with your research. Not sure how they missed the opportunity to give "lack of group diversity" as a possible reason for the attack.

Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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post #23
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no... thanks for trying to censor everything though... you sound like Mods on a bad day.

Deleting a thread on a tech forum with no substantive discussion about great ape behavior is not "censorship" or "censoring everything"

It most certainly is censorship done arbitrarily-- the voting system is there to reflect the attitudes and desires of the users.

But let's go further and just delete articles on gorillas and the dangers of mindfulness meditation as well? They have nothing to do with tech, anyways...

Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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post #13

> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…

They've turned climate change into the new boogeyman, which is a shame since it's an important issue.

and why is it an important issue? In part because of the ecological stresses it causes, which results in less supply of resources in a given ecological niche.

Seems entirely reasonable to hypothesise the cause of aggression being related to this. That's not something they tested, merely a proposed hypothesis.

Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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post #13

> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…

Makes your wonder why Neanderthals only survived as fragments in our DNA.

Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are videos https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-93829-x

Direct link?

You can download these with youtube-dl:

https://videocdnvod1-vh.akamaihd.net/i/EDUvKatdP5Y4y5HF1ihek...

https://videocdnvod1-vh.akamaihd.net/i/5PRZ1ghRygZ5tTNMcbrrT...

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