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Re: BBEdit 14

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Sublime Text has always performed similarly for me

This Sublime feature has worked for me except for a single time... During one of the interim, 3.x upgrades I lost all of the open but not saved notes files.

I had that issue when upgrading from 3.x->4 -- I was so cocky from years of ST's insane consistency that it honestly didn't even occur to me that my unsaved documents might be lost.

I wasn't even mad; just a little surprised

Re: BBEdit 14

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Can someone here explain to me the appeal of BBEdit? I’ve tried using it several times but it never clicked with me. (I’m an Emacs user.)

It’s in a very precise midpoint between Notepad and an IDE that preciously few other text editors stand in.

It's the editor equivalent of Word 5.1 for the Mac; the thing that people think of as being "just right".

Re: BBEdit 14

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> We know that many of our customers create a lot of untitled documents for quick note-taking, and rely on BBEdit's legendary stability and robust crash recovery to protect their work. We've added a new "Notes" feature in BBEdit 14... Ooh, guilty as charged. I see an "Untitled text 931". It's a list of hostnames. "Untitled text 107" is a Beef & Broccoli recipe.

I see a lot of "oh, but this is what a lot of editors do" comments. But BBEdit 14's Notes feature is not "we save untitled files"; it's a little more like the Notes app, or like a more limited version of Ulysses's sheets. It's explicitly about saving documents that you don't bother to give titles to.

Also, a neat trick BBEdit has had since version 13, I think: it can actually recover untitled documents even after you close them and say "no, don't save."

Re: BBEdit 14

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This Sublime feature has worked for me except for a single time... During one of the interim, 3.x upgrades I lost all of the open but not saved notes files.

I had that issue when upgrading from 3.x->4 -- I was so cocky from years of ST's insane consistency that it honestly didn't even occur to me that my unsaved documents might be lost. I wasn't even mad; just a little surprised

I didn't have this issue when upgrading to 4, just on an interim 3.x update. Maybe the OS made a difference. I had that issue on a Mac.

Re: BBEdit 14

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For those curious, I wrote a review the other day called "BBEdit 14, and why you should care":

https://micro.coyotetracks.org/2021/07/19/bbedit-and-why.htm...

(And yes, I know many of you may have valid reasons not to care, but I was aiming mostly at Mac users who think "oh, I remember BBEdit" but haven't used it in a decade or more.)

Re: BBEdit 14

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I like the completions of Sublime text a lot better for most tasks. ST’s packages are also really powerful and BBEDit isn’t extensible in the same ways (though it is through AppleScript and a host of other things). After the 30-day “trial” is up, the features in its free version are more than worth keeping it installed for. I keep an active license for it in addition to Sublime Text because it’s my preferred tool for…

After the 30-day trial expires, BBEdit becomes what used to be a separate application from the same developers called TextWrangler. TextWrangler was my first code editor because my dad had it installed on the family iMac for its sophisticated grep capabilities.

That’s what they’ve replaced TextWrangler with, but if you look at the feature comparison page, the free tier seems to do so much more than TextWrangler did that it feels less accurate to call it that — I was never a TextWrangler user, though, so I’m not qualified to say from experience.

Re: BBEdit 14

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I switched to Nova about 6 months ago - great editor and development seems supercharged compared to BBEdit.

As much as I love Panic and their software, BBEdit's LSP support is considerably more solid and its text editing engine is just a lot more powerful. There are still some advantages Nova has and it's certainly prettier, but after about a year of using Nova -- I started with the betas! -- it still feels nerfed compared to both BBEdit and Visual Studio Code (which I'd argue is its more natural competitor).

Re: BBEdit 14

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post #48

I really wish it supported keyboard rebinding. I really wish this. I would happily pay for it, over and over again, but the tab key behaviour when editing structured text is just ... wrong.

There's a whole preference pane called "Menus & Shortcuts" which lets you set new keyboard bindings for virtually everything.

I'm not sure what behavior you're looking for with the tab key in structured text, but if you're complaining that by default it will replace selected text with a tab character rather than indenting the whole thing, you could always go to the Keyboard preference pane and check the box by "Allow Tab key to indent text blocks"...

Re: BBEdit 14

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Saw this editor names several times before, but never used it. Out of curiosity, how does it compare to Sublime Text?

I like the completions of Sublime text a lot better for most tasks. ST’s packages are also really powerful and BBEDit isn’t extensible in the same ways (though it is through AppleScript and a host of other things). After the 30-day “trial” is up, the features in its free version are more than worth keeping it installed for. I keep an active license for it in addition to Sublime Text because it’s my preferred tool for…

I used to use Applescripts with BBEdit but it's got unix script support too.

For example, I write Ruby scripts that act on the file, either to change to the text or just to run commands, and snippets are available to fill out text with a jumping cursor to replacement points. I'm not sure what Sublime Text packages offer that BBEdit can't as it's been a while since I used ST/Textmate regularly.

Re: BBEdit 14

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post #18

Saw this editor names several times before, but never used it. Out of curiosity, how does it compare to Sublime Text?

One important differences is that Sublime Text is available on the principal dev platforms, BBEdit is Mac-only.
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