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An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by speed_spread »

mszcz wrote: post #363
bjoli wrote: post #341

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My old clevo laptop has an i7 in it with fans that sound like hair dryers. It never throttles. I would never buy a laptop where throttling was a presumed solution to thermal issues, because I want to get work done. Pre-m1 macbooks were awful. Even worse than top of the line dell laptops. I have always felt like a minority for expecting a 2k laptop to actually be able to get work done. If I would ever be able to run L…

If you're looking for a PC that's not a headache to put together, is semi-mobile, powerful and quiet have a look at AMD-based gaming PCs. I got a Lenovo Legion with 4800H(8/16)/32GB/2T/GTX1650/144Hz a couple of months ago. That's a really sufficiently cooled system. It almost never spins up the fans, it's powerful, has a lot of space, no RGBs and has a super boring, tasteless, anti-theft design that never goes out of…

One eternal problem with gaming laptops and Linux remains the dual-GPU architecture, which is always kind-of-but-not-quite supported. Most often it is easier to forego either the GPU or CPU-video, leaving the overall experience frustrating.

The fact that most (all?) gaming laptops come with NVidia GPUs (requiring closed drivers, unless Nouveau got much better since last time I tried it) doesn't help.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Udo_Schmitz »

rsfinn wrote: post #422
Udo_Schmitz wrote: post #360

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Lots of Apple’s print ads in the 70s used the term Personal Computer: http://www.macmothership.com/gallery/MiscAds2/1977IntroApple... http://www.macmothership.com/gallery/MiscAds2/AisFor1.jpg http://www.macmothership.com/gallery/MiscAds2/ad24.jpg

Sure; I don't disagree (and perhaps my previous post was less clear about this) that "personal computer" was definitely in common use, particular in advertising aimed at "regular consumers" rather than hobbyists, and well before the IBM PC. I do disagree with the suggestion that the initialism "PC" was understood to mean "personal computer" in general before the release of the IBM PC. If that's overly pedantic, well,…

Oh, OK, I think you’re right there.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by fomine3 »

pornel wrote: post #400
fomine3 wrote: post #262

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MacBook series' thermal design is considered bad compared to other laptops for a long time. It accidentally helped a bit people think M1 is great and Intel is bad (though it's mostly true). (I believe it's not intended.)

Apple put M1 in the exact same bad enclosures they were using before, so the Apples-to-Apples comparison is still valid :)

Yes that's the point. Apple enclosure + Intel CPU was worst one.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by bjoli »

bserge wrote: post #409
bjoli wrote: post #341

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My old clevo laptop has an i7 in it with fans that sound like hair dryers. It never throttles. I would never buy a laptop where throttling was a presumed solution to thermal issues, because I want to get work done. Pre-m1 macbooks were awful. Even worse than top of the line dell laptops. I have always felt like a minority for expecting a 2k laptop to actually be able to get work done. If I would ever be able to run L…

> It never throttles. Just in case, are you actually monitoring temperatures? Regardless, buy some proper thermal paste and pads and replace them on everything, it will quiet down significantly while also running cooler. The difference between factory Thermal Interface Material and custom is often ridiculous.

I do sometimes when I do heavy things on it (long and heavy compiles or when I'm rebuilding some heavy datasets). I never tried with any synthetic benchmarks. The Mac throttles whenever I look at it the wrong way.

Edit: and I don't mind the noise. I will maybe do something if it starts throttling, but I have had 0 issues for as long as I can remember.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by kaba0 »

jcelerier wrote: post #364
sooheon wrote: post #300

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So why does linux ux feel slower?

On the exact same hardware linux always felt much faster to me, I remember doing stuff like resizeing finder windows vs KDE's dolphin, finder would be all janky and laggy and KDE wouldn't miss a frame

https://old.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/jyxo38/why_is_resizi...

Highly doubt

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by mixmastamyk »

baggy_trough wrote: post #275
SilverRed wrote: post #270

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The touch bar should have been in addition to the function row really. On the 16" mac there is plenty of space for both. Few people hate the touch bar, they hate the lack of function keys.

I hate it because it’s too easy to accidentally press a “key” and trigger some potentially large scale event.

I hate it because it takes three taps and a delay to change the volume or brightness, 99% of my use case.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by exikyut »

mgerullis wrote: post #346
freeone3000 wrote: post #142

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Web browsing isn't a light activity anymore. Web pages consume more memory and more CPU than my text editor

Has there been a time in history where web browsing was lighter than text editing, ever?

No, but there is now, "thanks" to Electron :P

More specifically, HN would use less RAM than VSC would to open a .txt file.

Eh, not bad. not good; we don't know what the new goalpost positions mean yet.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by pmarreck »

RandomWorker wrote: post #45
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

Same here, it’s like a freaky experience. I run mostly from the browser but have a couple of things going at the same time. One thing I noticed is the blazing fast typing on the Mac. There is an ever so small lag on windows in perceptible when using it. But, when you type on the Mac you notice it, and the brain just feels good using it. I have no idea if this is a real thing, but it’s similar with scrolling, you touc…

Just FYI from a person who's used Macs since December 1984 and Windows since DOS, the instant UI responsiveness of Macs (when using any input device), regardless of load, was ALWAYS a feature, even going back to the very first Mac. I always noticed the lag on Windows and couldn't believe it didn't bother anyone... which of course it didn't, because it's all most people knew!

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by pmarreck »

cesarb wrote: post #438
MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #258

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Then it's not .nomedia but some Mac specific file. I can't recall what it is since I stopped using syncthing on my Mac haha. I rarely use it unless I kinda have to.

IIRC, MacOS is well known for leaving .DS_Store droppings absolutely everywhere. If you ever shared a pen drive with a MacOS user, it would come back full of .DS_Store junk all over it. It might be that one you're recalling.

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteUSBStores true

Run these both in Terminal, and either restart Finder or just reboot. Should solve that problem.

The whole point of those files was to store Mac-related metadata (such as icon positions and other stuff) that the filesystem in question did not have the capability to store, to preserve Mac users' expectations.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Shorel »

f1refly wrote: post #315
SilverRed wrote: post #281

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Electron has higher permissions so you can do things like select your audio inputs in discord which is nicer than the browser selection.

Alternatively you can always use a voip client which doesnt need half your systems resources. Picking audio channels was a normal feature decades ago.

Yes you can, discord client: https://cancel.fm/ripcord/

And I also use Mumble from time to time.

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