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Enough is enough

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Re: Enough is enough

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Post by vmception »

jensensbutton wrote: post #6

Another interesting example of a company choosing to simply route around the media. Not making a value judgement, but I'm seeing more companies opt to simply disengage and try to create their own narratives rather than go through the media via interviews/statements/etc.

Myself and my companies have gotten around streisand effect before by just ignoring everyone and then doing takedown requests a few weeks later.

Nobody saves stuff if you don't react. They only save copies when you are seen as trying to delete the copies.

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by celticninja »

the-dude wrote: post #3
celticninja wrote: post #2

Translation: we are going to get away with it whether we spend money on PR or not, so we are going to save the money. Fuck You.

Your comment would be better without the last sentence. This is not Twitter.

The last sentence is part of the response to the public, not my opinion of the company.

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by ignoramous »

TOMDM wrote: post #16

>NSO will continue its mission of saving lives, helping governments around the world prevent terror attacks, break up pedophilia, sex, and drug-trafficking rings, locate missing and kidnapped children, locate survivors trapped under collapsed buildings, and protect airspace against disruptive penetration by dangerous drones. If NSO group truly cared about that mission statement, they'd be more than happy to continue…

Yeah its like the US DoD: Sell weapons and wage wars to keep peace and spread democracy.

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by spenvo »

Regarding the "list": Amnesty said 34 iPhones were forensically checked. 23 successfully had malware (specifically NSO's Pegasus) installed on them. The other 11 saw attempts at malware infection. [0]

That's a 100% hit rate on their sampling of the "list".

That makes this statement demonstrably false: "The numbers in the list are not related to NSO group." At this point, why would you even care to read the rest of this statement if it includes a bald-faced lie at the top? (You would have to disbelieve both Amnesty and Citizen Lab (who provided peer review) to see it as anything but a lie.)

But, as others are saying, NSO contradicts itself with respect to what it says it does and does not know about who is attacked with Pegasus. Here's a good thread on that: https://twitter.com/zackwhittaker/status/1417127080672776192

This company's PR communications are so self-contradictory and deceitful that it's insulting.

[0] -https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/07/19/apple-i...

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by kome »

this press release doesn't explain anything... NSO doesn't even try to attempt to explain what's going on. And the proofs against them are piling up.

It's a brilliant strategy in a way: they just let the story be, and they will keep doing what they are doing.

I guess their political connections with Israeli élite allows them this peace of mind.

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by 4r4r4r »

igorzx31 wrote: post #9

NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.

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Re: Enough is enough

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Post by a2800276 »

TOMDM wrote: post #16

>NSO will continue its mission of saving lives, helping governments around the world prevent terror attacks, break up pedophilia, sex, and drug-trafficking rings, locate missing and kidnapped children, locate survivors trapped under collapsed buildings, and protect airspace against disruptive penetration by dangerous drones. If NSO group truly cared about that mission statement, they'd be more than happy to continue…

It sounds to me like you are pro-terrorism and hate children, ponies and other cute animals.

NSO is a pure manifestation of peace, wholesomeness and everything that is good in the world including but not limited to your mother and apple pie. After all they only work with governments with strong human rights records like Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Afghanistan, China and the United States.

Do you hate freedom?

Re: Enough is enough

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Post by technicolorwhat »

Serious question: We talk always about companies like they are are organisms and not run by people making decisions. I see texts referring to group, company, people. Who's making the decisions and why don't we address them by name? Would this not make them more accountable if we did?
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