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Enough is enough

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Re: Enough is enough

#21
They state: "NSO is a technology company. We do not operate the system, nor do we have access to the data of our customers"

Yet they also state: "The list is not a list of targets or potential targets of Pegasus."

How do they know it is not a list of targets if they don't have access to their customer's lists of targets?

None of this is trustworthy and neither are NSO.

Re: Enough is enough

#22
Pretty embarrassing response, honestly. If you specifically work in an area that can be used for sensitive purposes, you have a moral responsibility as to who you choose to sell to and what you choose to enable them to do.

Moreover, if you're going to engage in moral indignation -- we can't possibly be responsible for what our customers do!!! -- then you can't end with a paragraph about how you're a league of superheroes saving the world from all its evils. I completely believe Pegasus has the ability to help with a kidnapping case, but if they want an ounce of credit for it then they need to take responsibility for egregious abuses.

You reap what you sow. Hope the victims of Pegasus sue these people into oblivion, especially Kashoggi's widows.

And by the way, anyone who does public communications also has a moral obligation to consider whether their copy text engages in reputation laundering. The person who wrote this sounds stressed and demoralized, and that's a good thing. I hope this is the worst job they ever have in their life, and that they quit as soon as possible because of the misery they're going through.

Re: Enough is enough

#23
post #9

NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.

Attacking NSO would be like attacking the Israeli government and you don't do that because your PM's shitty OpSec was exposed.

Re: Enough is enough

#24
NSO's responses seem to intentionally redirect from Amnesty's forensic work identifying Pegasus to the list per se:

> The list is not a list of targets or potential targets of Pegasus.

> The numbers in the list are not related to NSO group.

Re: Enough is enough

#25
post #7

> "NSO will thoroughly investigate any credible proof of misuse of its technologies, as we always had, and will shut down the system where necessary." From Wikipedia: "In October 2018 Citizen Lab reported on the use of NSO software to spy on the inner circle of Jamal Khashoggi just before his murder. Citizen Lab's October report[65] stated, with high confidence, that NSO's Pegasus had been placed on the iPhone of Sau…

Corporations do not have any moral at all. It is always virtue signaling when they pretend they do have.

Re: Enough is enough

#26
post #9

NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.

Attacking NSO would be like attacking the Israeli government and you don't do that because your PM's shitty OpSec was exposed.

Remember the Israelis also need allies.

Re: Enough is enough

#28
post #9

NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.

Unlikely. If anything this is good PR: look we have this great tool that can hack anything and we will totally sell it to shit countries run by tin pot dictators.

The only way this backfires is if somebody sends men with guns after them.

Re: Enough is enough

#29
post #9

NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.

It’s an Israeli weapon, subject to arms control legislation. But that legislation can only be authored by Israel itself. So it doesn’t matter what other countries outlaw, Israel will continue to authorise NSO to sell the software to state actors around the world.

Israel could always do with an extra friend or two and providing this software gains them a friend while costing them nothing.

Re: Enough is enough

#30
post #3

Translation: we are going to get away with it whether we spend money on PR or not, so we are going to save the money. Fuck You.

Your comment would be better without the last sentence. This is not Twitter.

To be honest, "Fuck you," is just a condensed version of NSO's first paragraph.
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