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Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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With the luxury of working from home during the pandemic, I've much preferred using the opportunity to discover new music during the day, rather than listening to nondescript ambient music on the loop. I suggest others give it a try. It's not like the two are mutually exclusive. You could give Robert Fripp's discography a try for ambient/electronic, for instance: https://open.spotify.com/album/3gHpX5wJn0kzAXJvwORG6u

It depends on the type of work I'm doing, for me the issue with new music is that the novelty makes it so engaging that it may distract me from being able to fully concentrate on my work which is why sometimes I definitely prefer a more ambient chill vibe. Same thing happens to me with music of sufficient complexity such as a baroque counterpoint style.

I'm sort of the opposite... I need absolutely new music to be able to work with something on the background. Otherwise I recognize the song and start humming along...

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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post #39

What is with audio apps on web refusing to add volume sliders? I see it on instagram, tiktok, podcast sites, this site, etc. I genuinely don't understand why I would want to manage the volume of one app with my system volume. Do people actually want everything to be the same volume?

I think the real question is why don't OS's make managing app-specific volume easier?

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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Another pretty wonderful option, both for focus and for other uses of background sound is https://mynoise.net

It's very customizable at a level that most tools aren't, making it easy to (for example) pare back low bass or high treble if one or the other grates on your ears whilst working -- or amp up or down background conversation depending on your taste.

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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post #39

What is with audio apps on web refusing to add volume sliders? I see it on instagram, tiktok, podcast sites, this site, etc. I genuinely don't understand why I would want to manage the volume of one app with my system volume. Do people actually want everything to be the same volume?

I think the real question is why don't OS's make managing app-specific volume easier?

I can manage chrome's volume no problem in windows...I don't want that though. If I turn down chrome entirely then I can't hear certain youtube videos, etc. I prefer my audio setup to be maxed in the windows mixer and managed finely in individual apps. I am hoh so my preferences may be different than other though.

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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post #37

Does music helps you concentrate when you need to think hard on a problem? For example, trying to visualize the workings of an algorithm, or other complicated concept? I personally like music in background maybe for monotonic or dull kind of work

I found that stopped noticing music if I were at all engaged, and if I started noticing, it was distracting so I turned it off.

On the other hand, during the spring I would check in on a bird-nest webcam from time to time, and if I left the page open, I felt there was a net but subliminal benefit from the background birdsong.

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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post #39

What is with audio apps on web refusing to add volume sliders? I see it on instagram, tiktok, podcast sites, this site, etc. I genuinely don't understand why I would want to manage the volume of one app with my system volume. Do people actually want everything to be the same volume?

I think the real question is why don't OS's make managing app-specific volume easier?

windows 10 does a decent job at this

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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With the luxury of working from home during the pandemic, I've much preferred using the opportunity to discover new music during the day, rather than listening to nondescript ambient music on the loop. I suggest others give it a try. It's not like the two are mutually exclusive. You could give Robert Fripp's discography a try for ambient/electronic, for instance: https://open.spotify.com/album/3gHpX5wJn0kzAXJvwORG6u

I've been working on a music discovery platform for, well, really 14 years but my latest rewrite I started about 18 months ago now.

It's not approachable yet, but based on the response here that may change.

It is primarily label based. By using discogs, essentially imdb for music, it uses some Foaf and affinity "distances".

Here's an example flow, let's say you find an artist you like, say Cygnus (https://www.discogs.com/artist/1932807-Cygnus-5). We pull down the releases and get the labels. Then go to the labels which have links to things like Bandcamp, SoundCloud, or various other sites. The tool then catalogs the releases and adds them essentially to an unlabeled dataset. (I've been updating dead links on discogs for a while to make this thing with better btw ;p )

Then there's another tool that goes through to "label" things by you listening to them. Essentially it's designed to do a single pass. There's a REPL and it interfaces with mpv using their JSON and Lua interface.

Then you rate each release and the adjacent information, such as the people working on it (on its discogs catalog page) becomes another vector for possible traversal.

It's not a constant scraper, it'd go on forever. Essentially it's manually run and there's a tweakable threshold.

For instance. Say you highly rate multiple releases that share a producer, artist, and label. Well, by golly, if there's a few other releases in that grouping you'll probably like that too. I mean, duh, obvious, right?

A lot of this approach came from the world of italo disco where the real names often got obscured behind short lived projects and labels which required a bit of digging to find the related content. Take Aldo Martinelli for instance. Here's his fb banner which is the best catalog of his work I know (https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/fr/cp0/e1...). Same person doing all of that. For instance, "topo & roby" and "moon ray comanchero" are essentially the same people, but getting from one to the other or uncovering the relationships, that's the challenge this infrastructure tries to solve.

This stuff gets unusually complicated with specific regards to italo disco. See the profile of radiorama for instance (https://www.discogs.com/artist/73973-Radiorama) or groups like The Flirts, Fun Fun or Den Harrow, where models were the faces, singers were the vocals, different song writers and musicians would come and go, they were all huge tangles.

This method completely ignores popularity or what others are listening to and falls back on the networks of the people making the content. For me at least, it's produced great results.

But it's built exclusively for me at this time. I don't even have most of the traversal code posted The code is over here https://github.com/kristopolous/music-explorer

I'd be happy to make it more accessible but I'm multiple standard deviations from the mean when it comes to how I approach music so I've got no idea whether there's a large interest here

If you want to see what results look like, now this is exclusively catered to my tastes, I have a pretty basic hack to listen to things on the go over here http://9ol.es/pl/

I guess the focus here is to see the label/artist diversity even if the style of music isn't your thing.

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As far as listening while you work, the tool is instrumentable. For me I can press a quasimode key (say the windows key) along with some other key and do things like pause/play, label the release, track/release navigation, get info, open the webpage that it was on, etc. These are hooked at the window manager level.

This way there's as little task switching as possible and I can stay in whatever application I'm doing.

Re: Yet another background music for developer, if you missed working at cafe

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the real question is why don't OS's make managing app-specific volume easier?

I can manage chrome's volume no problem in windows...I don't want that though. If I turn down chrome entirely then I can't hear certain youtube videos, etc. I prefer my audio setup to be maxed in the windows mixer and managed finely in individual apps. I am hoh so my preferences may be different than other though.

"hoh"?
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