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Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by oritron »

cytzol wrote: post #8

Thanks to using BBEdit for a decade now, I get bitterly disappointed whenever I re-open an application and it doesn't restore the windows and state it had when it closed. I've tried switching to both Emacs and Vim, but no amount of configuration nor third-party plugins could get them to work like this effectively. BBEdit works exactly how I want it to work out of the box, and I commend it for that.

I don't know about Vim, but Emacs will do this easily with `persp-mode`. To skip a bit of customization work, get doom-emacs and enable the `workspaces` module, which will save sessions for you by default.

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by meetups323 »

mistrial9 wrote: post #16

how can one author say "I have spent more than a thousand productive hours using your product" ?

That's just half a year of full time use in a standard day job. An editor could additionally be used outside of work for taking notes or working on side projects.

I've probably used VS Code over 5000 hours in my life. (Halfway to becoming an expert!)

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by eludwig »

ilovecaching wrote: post #2

I use BBEdit and love the editor (esp. love the new LSP support), but have hated the name and the icon for a long time. I have all these beautiful macOS icons, and then there's BBedit with it's weird acronym name and encyclopedia looking icon. Maybe it's time for a rebranding for the next generation! But seriously, BBEdit IMO beats out VSCode for speed and stability by a mile if you're a macOS user. And you're suppor…

>>But seriously, BBEdit IMO beats out VSCode for speed and stability by a mile if you're a macOS user

I've been using BBEdit since the first release and I would never trade it for VSCode. They are totally different beasts to me. VSCode has been ridiculously stable for me and, as far as I can recall, has never crashed or lost a single line of source code. VSCode's speed has never been an issue, as it is ALWAYS open all the time, lol. I restart to update it and that is that.

On the other hand, BBEdit is always open as well, performing totally different tasks. These days, I use it mainly as a persistent note taker and text munger. I will definitely be looking to test the new "Notes Window" functionality!

Both great tools, open 24x7 on my dev mac.

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by LukeBMM »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #12

I switched to Nova about 6 months ago - great editor and development seems supercharged compared to BBEdit.

I keep meaning to pick up Nova out of love for Panic, but every time I've tried a new editor[0] I end up switching back to BBEdit.

0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25135058#25162222

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by munificent »

ziml77 wrote: post #19
macrael wrote: post #13

LSP is a game changer simultaneously raising our expectations for a code editor and lowering the bar for editors to get there.

LSP was such an awesome idea. It's amazing to me that this wasn't a thing before Microsoft introduced it in VS Code. It's incredibly useful for every editor.

> It's amazing to me that this wasn't a thing before Microsoft introduced it in VS Code.

For what it's worth, the static analysis infrastructure we built for Dart was designed this way and, I think, existed slightly before LSP. We used it to provide a nice Dart IDE experience in the Dart Editor (a custom build of Eclipse), IntelliJ, Emacs, Vim, etc. without having to reimplement everything multiple times.

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by LukeBMM »

ibic wrote: post #18

Saw this editor names several times before, but never used it. Out of curiosity, how does it compare to Sublime Text?

With the caveat that I've relatively little experience with ST, they're in the same ballpark and probably roughly equivalent. BBEdit is probably dated in some ways and mac-only, but _possibly_ even more stable and quicker than Sublime Text.

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by edoceo »

dhruvbhatia wrote: post #20
talentedcoin wrote: post #15

Can someone here explain to me the appeal of BBEdit? I’ve tried using it several times but it never clicked with me. (I’m an Emacs user.)

My story is rather dated and admittedly only one data point, but when I was in my early teens (early 2000s), WYSIWYG editors like Frontpage and Dreamweaver were the tools I used to self-learn the basics of web dev. The issue though was that those editors were rather bloated and ran very poorly on the machine my mother had bought me, so it became increasingly favourable to seek something lighter weight and non-WYSIWYG…

Anecdata: I didn't learn web stuff via WYSIWIG (but I did VB6 that way, a bit). My first web-app was built with ASP in notepad and smashing that refresh button. I still don't like the graphic, I'm coding it (like a caveman?)

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by unicornporn »

haroldp wrote: post #11

> We know that many of our customers create a lot of untitled documents for quick note-taking, and rely on BBEdit's legendary stability and robust crash recovery to protect their work. We've added a new "Notes" feature in BBEdit 14... Ooh, guilty as charged. I see an "Untitled text 931". It's a list of hostnames. "Untitled text 107" is a Beef & Broccoli recipe.

This is the main reason BBEdit has been with me for a decade. I have NEVER lost an unsaved document during that whole time. You quit BBEdit or restart or crash macOS but they're always there when you're back in. Insanely robust.

Is there anything like it on Linux?

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by masterof0 »

LukeBMM wrote: post #24
rubyist5eva wrote: post #12

I switched to Nova about 6 months ago - great editor and development seems supercharged compared to BBEdit.

I keep meaning to pick up Nova out of love for Panic, but every time I've tried a new editor[0] I end up switching back to BBEdit. 0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25135058#25162222

Same, the UI of Nova is too flashy for my taste, I love the simplicity of BBEdit, and the perceived performance difference. I have been using Sublime and BBEdit intermittently , I will give it another try now that they support LSP.

Re: BBEdit 14

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Post by vbezhenar »

unicornporn wrote: post #28
haroldp wrote: post #11

> We know that many of our customers create a lot of untitled documents for quick note-taking, and rely on BBEdit's legendary stability and robust crash recovery to protect their work. We've added a new "Notes" feature in BBEdit 14... Ooh, guilty as charged. I see an "Untitled text 931". It's a list of hostnames. "Untitled text 107" is a Beef & Broccoli recipe.

This is the main reason BBEdit has been with me for a decade. I have NEVER lost an unsaved document during that whole time. You quit BBEdit or restart or crash macOS but they're always there when you're back in. Insanely robust. Is there anything like it on Linux?

IMO every program must work like this. I hate so much those "do you want to save this file" when I close a program. Don't ask me, just save it somewhere and restore when I open the program next time. It's trivial to implement and much easier to use.
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