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Re: Show HN: Sioyek – PDF viewer for reading research papers and technical documents

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Post by pwdisswordfish8 »

jnurmine wrote: post #49
hexomancer wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean exactly by annotations? Sioyek currently does have a bookmark support which is external to the PDF (you can bookmark locations in PDF file and you can later quickly search in those bookmarks). But I assume you mean some sort of visual annotation that is drawn on top of the PDF?

Yes, exactly, visual things drawn on top of the PDF. I mean things like Okular has: highlighting text (like with a yellow highlighter on paper books), freeform draw tool (like scribbling with a pen), adding short text comments and longer notes, etc. To illustrate, the annotations in an old Okular version looked like this: https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/okular/okular/annotations.ht... (the yellow note box, the green…

Check out Hypothesis and/or docdrop.org.

Re: Show HN: Sioyek – PDF viewer for reading research papers and technical documents

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Post by boomer_joe »

hexomancer wrote: post #12
jnurmine wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Annotations are super useful. Please consider storing the annotations external to the PDF. For example, Okular wants to save these to the PDF itself. This doesn't work very well with a read-only network drive (read: corporate environment).

What do you mean exactly by annotations? Sioyek currently does have a bookmark support which is external to the PDF (you can bookmark locations in PDF file and you can later quickly search in those bookmarks). But I assume you mean some sort of visual annotation that is drawn on top of the PDF?

Drawn with a graphics tablet, yeah.

I find the drawing UX of Okular very lacking - if this application could have a simple, clean annotations interface that produces clean lines with a tablet, this would be huge for me.

Re: Show HN: Sioyek – PDF viewer for reading research papers and technical documents

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Post by jpeloquin »

hexomancer wrote: post #59
jpeloquin wrote: post #53

I tried the Windows download and went through the tutorial. Some feedback: 1. The low latency feels really good. It's snappy. 2. Smart Jump is great. It seems to target the figure caption though, and depending on zoom level / window size might leave most of the figure out of view. To be fair, the figure links that publishers bake into their PDFs often have the same problem. 3. Smart Jump to figures worked reliably in…

> It seems to target the figure caption though, and depending on zoom level / window size might leave most of the figure out of view. You are right. It currently does target the caption (specifically the place where the word `Figure' is). Targeting the exact figure is something that I will work on. > what looked like [13] was stored as @13#. We probably should support more citation styles. Currently only the bracket…

> If brackets being stored as @[NUM]# turns out to be common I could handle that too

I was unclear: The PDF's publisher decided to print the character '[' using the character code for '@' and a font choice that made '@' look like '['. The text content in the PDF did not match the displayed content. These kind of bizarre publishing choices make automated processing of research literature pretty frustrating IMO, so if you decide to just handle well-formed PDFs (e.g., LaTeX output) I think that's reasonable.

Re: zoom & pan in the helper window: I meant zoom & pan post-capture, but I can see how re-capturing is a solution. I was resizing both windows a lot while testing so my portal captures were very inconsistent, which probably isn't the intended workflow.

Thanks for working to make reading research and technical documents a better experience.

Re: Show HN: Sioyek – PDF viewer for reading research papers and technical documents

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Post by jnurmine »

pwdisswordfish8 wrote: post #61
jnurmine wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly, visual things drawn on top of the PDF. I mean things like Okular has: highlighting text (like with a yellow highlighter on paper books), freeform draw tool (like scribbling with a pen), adding short text comments and longer notes, etc. To illustrate, the annotations in an old Okular version looked like this: https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/okular/okular/annotations.ht... (the yellow note box, the green…

Check out Hypothesis and/or docdrop.org.

Looks nice and it's probably useful for many people, but personally I want things like my notes to stay 100% local.

When it comes to my notes, what I read, or when I read it, any kind of cloud component or connection to the internet is a showstopper for me.

Re: Show HN: Sioyek – PDF viewer for reading research papers and technical documents

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Post by pwdisswordfish8 »

jnurmine wrote: post #64
pwdisswordfish8 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out Hypothesis and/or docdrop.org.

Looks nice and it's probably useful for many people, but personally I want things like my notes to stay 100% local. When it comes to my notes, what I read, or when I read it, any kind of cloud component or connection to the internet is a showstopper for me.

https://github.com/judell/zotero

> sync hypothesis zotero

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