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Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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This is how it works in Czech Republic. Two brothers defrauded the government by forging signatures of the owners and notaries for the transfer of property deeds and took several hundred thousand Euros worth of land from various people. My friend's family has been in court for 10 years trying to get it back. The brothers mortgaged the properties to pay for litigation. The real shit sandwich is that one brother died,…

If they win, most of the lawyer fees will be paid by the losing party.

Except the losing party won't have any money that can be recovered.

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_(computing) Microsoft lets any program use that UI: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/windowsribbon... I've only seen a few programs take up the offer though. Probably because the style is almost synonymous with MS Office as you've noted

Notably AutoCAD also uses ribbon=style interface, though I'm not sure if they use MS implementation or their own.

I used AutoCAD a while back and it wasn't the MS ribbon UI but custom.

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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They took out a mortgage after being served but before they ever got in a court room. The law is so slow here that it could've taken years just to settle that issue. Probably easier to address post victory.

Isn't it in the duty of care of the bank to make sure that the property they give a mortgage on is actually owned by the mortgagee? I would assume that you should get the land and the bank can then sue the brothers to get their money back. Why should the mortgage be transfered to the original owners, they never agreed to it.

Yes, but the bank can afford more and better lawyers, so good luck getting them to eat the cost of the mortgage.

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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This is how it works in Czech Republic. Two brothers defrauded the government by forging signatures of the owners and notaries for the transfer of property deeds and took several hundred thousand Euros worth of land from various people. My friend's family has been in court for 10 years trying to get it back. The brothers mortgaged the properties to pay for litigation. The real shit sandwich is that one brother died,…

Im amazed they found a bank who would provide a mortgage against a property that was part of a legal dispute over ownership.

How would a bank know?

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Im amazed they found a bank who would provide a mortgage against a property that was part of a legal dispute over ownership.

How would a bank know?

Legal due diligence?

When I bought a house, all sorts of legal checks were required before I was allowed a mortgage. That seems like it would be standard practice.

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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Im amazed they found a bank who would provide a mortgage against a property that was part of a legal dispute over ownership.

How would a bank know?

I would assume that the bank checks these things as part of a checklist before granting a loan?

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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How would a bank know?

Legal due diligence? When I bought a house, all sorts of legal checks were required before I was allowed a mortgage. That seems like it would be standard practice.

Did they check apart from the deed if somebody litigates? I mean is this info even public?

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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How would a bank know?

Legal due diligence? When I bought a house, all sorts of legal checks were required before I was allowed a mortgage. That seems like it would be standard practice.

You'd think you couldn't even buy a car these days without knowing every accident it was ever in.

Surprisingly, you can...

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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Forking the code doesn't fork the copyright ownership. Stockfish still owns the code under their copyright regardless of whether it lives in their repository or in some fork of their codebase. A forked project doesn't have the right to grant people licenses to code which they don't own.

Licences can give the right to sublicense under the same terms. But the GPL does not, and each licensor gets the licence directly from the copyright holder.

Regardless, you can't sublicense a license you don't hold (anymore).

Re: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

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> Thus, to enforce the consequences of the license termination, we have filed a lawsuit... We believe we have the evidence, the financial means and the determination to bring this lawsuit to a successful end. The part about financial means stood out for me. All societies should work harder to ensure that money is not an impediment to obtaining justice.

Beyond the bar of affording a decent attorney, money really isn't an obstacle to obtaining justice in America, and I can only think the reason they wrote that into their press release was because their lawyers wanted to impress upon everyone that they wouldn't be limited or badgered in their methods of pursuit. It's far too early to cry foul or assume that the system is rigged against them.
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