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My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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Transmission refers to receiving chi, or a spark of energy from an advanced teacher. Perhaps less snark, and more curiosity would serve you on topics like this.

Ah chi, well that explains everything, definitely 100% real and not made up bs at all.

Your name checks out

Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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Transmission refers to receiving chi, or a spark of energy from an advanced teacher. Perhaps less snark, and more curiosity would serve you on topics like this.

I feel the terminology used in your post inspires it.

If you want to remain ignorant, go right ahead.

Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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I found many problems with this article. The author of this article seems to assume that Cheetah house has all the answers!!! (Perhaps this article is an ad for that place.)

Regarding his statement “symptoms diagnosed by a therapist” – does the author know how psychiatry comes up with ‘diagnosis’ of so called “mental disorders” using checklists? I can cite many academic articles, but maybe just have a look at the following article: Psychiatric Drugs Increase Suicide. CAMPP’s Film “Prescripticide” Exposes the Harms By Dr. Chuck Ruby.

The author of the article discussed here also does not seem to understand Buddhism, although he says he has read many books. For example, it is best to leave Jhana practices (i.e., deep concentration practices) to monks because developing them needs a great deal of commitment and an incredible amount of patience. Also, these Jhana practices are not needed for full enlightenment [See the sutta reference AN 4.170: In Tandem].

Considering his following statement at the end, I am hoping that the author will understand things better with time: "A few months ago, I began dabbling with teaching mindfulness again, which may seem surprising. However, I believe that these practices, with the correct framework, dosage, and education, can be a valuable tool for improving mental health."

Mindfulness has helped me beyond words - I think it has saved my life. I am so very grateful to have found it.

Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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In the midst of all of the "You're just doing Buddhism wrong!" comments, I would like to point out the PLOS One paper mentioned in the article, "The varieties of contemplative experience: A mixed-methods study of meditation-related challenges in Western Buddhists" ( https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... ). " In one of the only prospective studies to use qualitative methods to deliberately as…

An intensive Vipassana retreat is just that, an INTENSIVE retreat. I've meditated for ~10 years. I don't think anyone's FIRST meditation experience should be a 10-day Vipassana retreat. I don't think anyone's first silence experience should be a 10-day Vipassana retreat. That's like going to a Navy Seal bootcamp when you've never exercised in your life. A lot of Buddhist or meditative practices also have close studen…

I knew picking that example would derail the discussion.

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This thread is blowing my mind, although not for the obvious reason. I’m just astounded by all the anecdotes people are mentioning here that suggest meditation, mindfulness, etc. actually work , even the secularized, distorted, popularized versions we get here in the West. Previously I just assumed this was all a bunch of wackadoo woo-woo bullshit designed to separate dissatisfied California yuppies from their money.…

> I just assumed this was all a bunch of wackadoo woo-woo bullshit designed to separate dissatisfied California yuppies from their money.

Same! This changed when I went to Vipassana, a 10 day silent course, and saw how it was run and funded without a hint of commercialism.

If you're interested, I wrote about it here: suketk.com/vipassana

Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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Most meditation I'm familiar with (of the Buddhist variety) is more about focusing the attention on the meditation object than about emptying your mind. I'm certainly not familiar with all the different meditation schools though.

the Soto style of zazen meditation is about emptying the mind though. I think the parent misunderstands meditation though - it's not an empty practice for the self-absorbed; it's only been repackaged that way as mindfulness.

The parent definitely does not misunderstand meditation, and is quite aware that there are two primary types - focused-attention and open-awareness - the latter of which is generally what gets packaged as mindfulness meditation these days. In fact, the parent has zero interest in becoming a fully detached and non-judgmental blob of cells regarding his thoughts, feelings, and sensations that are part of his unique human narrative and personality.

Or was that too judgmental? Maybe I should just let all these HN comments float by like the Buddhists say I ought. No need to respond or draw conclusions about anything in life, ever, just let it all pass by like a bird in the wind.

Re: My mindfulness practice led me to meltdown

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> He talks about dissociative experiences (which is well documented in medical research) Experienced this as well. > it being a pseudo-religion IMO, too simple. Many experiences feel quite pseudo-religion like. > more susceptible to breakage from smaller stresses, like one of a traffic jam Didn't experience this. In fact I believed I was more or less invincible and became pretty deluded. Thankfully a part always stay…

looking for a good level for myself, I'm curious which practice and level you find beneficial for yourself?

Currently I meditate way less than I should. There have been a few months where it was as if I was only mind wandering the whole day (stressful period), so then I meditate a bit more to calm myself down.
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