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Post by fumar »

Arainach wrote: post #344
ac29 wrote: post #316

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Would raising prices 5 or 10% be so catastrophic to revenue that they couldnt even give it a few weeks? Or are they looking at a 50%+ price increase? If they want to retire anyways, then good for them. But a lot of businesses have had to raise prices this year, including grocers, which are arguably restaurants only competition. I think folks would understand.

If raising the prices drives away customers, you have now lost a notable value if you try to sell. Brand perception is (almost) everything. Unless you offer something truly unique or exceptional, you're replaceable in just about every market. There was a local beer taproom/bottle shop that I frequented a lot for years. Even as craft beer became more prominent and there were more local options, I liked it enough to ke…

Is this inflation creeping up in all the expected places? The value of goods is the same but the value of the USD is lower and thus we must increase costs. I don’t see it impacting brand perception if all prices go up.

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Post by cwkoss »

falcolas wrote: post #132
daenz wrote: post #92

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I knew someone who was mad at their partner because their partner was a software engineer and "didn't work as hard as they do" at a lower skill job, and yet made a lot more money. I'm not sure where this idea comes from that hard work is as valuable/more valuable than skilled work. But it seems to be a pervasive idea.

Skilled work is not the antonym of hard work. You can work hard doing skilled work. Knowledge work does look different from physical work, but you can work hard at both; you need to work hard at either to be successful. As for why hard physical work is so valued - only a century or two past, it was the only practical method to prevent the starvation for yourself and your family. Knowledge work being a viable means of…

> Knowledge work does look different from physical work, but you can work hard at both; you need to work hard at either to be successful.

Classist wage disparity is a real problem in America today. Often knowledge workers who don't work hard earn more than physical workers who do work hard.

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Post by acover »

Would a Costco style membership work for food?

Attract better behaved customers, match fixed vs variable expenses better, attract more regular customers.

Though you run into restaurants being a terrible industry with too much competition.

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Post by [deleted] »

vmception wrote: post #437
oramit wrote: post #135

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I think there has been a general rise in selfish behavior now that pandemic restrictions are being lifted. You have people who never took the pandemic seriously and now that things are back open, but are not the same, they are lashing out. That's one part of this. I also think you have another camp, which I'll admit to being a member of. I did everything I was supposed to do. I stayed at home, used masks everywhere,…

I suggested the bold idea of going to the movies this Friday, in theatres And my friend replied “I don’t think theaters are a problem after the orgies” From my experience over the last several months hosting parties in reopened areas, people are open to anything. Even people that would be considered squares are taking the opportunity to live it up alongside the wild vagabonds I’ve never seen anything like it

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Post by echelon »

WalterBright wrote: post #373
zipiridu wrote: post #233

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I've changed my mind on this a few times, but I think schools or creditors should have some duty to not give out loans of this magnitude to 17-year olds with little to no financial literacy. The same way that a bank would not give you a huge loan with bad credit. Schools should also be extremely upfront about this type of financial information.

These were Masters degree students, not 17 year olds. They had SIX years to type this into google: Starting salary for film degree I would think an educated student would know how to use google? But I bet they actually did know this, and went ahead anyway, and now just want to blame others.

It's taking longer than I would have thought for this meme to soak in for the general public. I knew this back in college, but that was a bit ago...

There isn't a lot of room at the top in film (at least until the creator economy table flips Hollywood). Likewise, there aren't many paid positions for historians, philosophy professors, etc.

Kids need to understand that their top priority should be to understand the shape of the economy and how to make themselves a valuable, indispensable part of it. Doing this early affords much greater freedom and leisure later in life.

Basically, kids need to understand supply and demand for careers. If they don't, it greatly impacts their future stability and happiness.

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Post by tester756 »

bigbob2 wrote: post #443
FredPret wrote: post #387

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It took you… - 20 years of work - x years of study - being born with the right nature/nurture mix for computer work …to get to this point. That’s a very significant initial hump in difficulty that restaurant work doesn’t have.

They never said it took 20 years for programming to become less hard

yet compare entry level for programming and waiter job

people with engineering degree struggle to find job as SE.

let alone that you need to put hundreds/thousands of hours into it in your free time

and then still learn a lot as dev in order to move up

i'm not saying that it makes SE harder, just different.

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Post by milesskorpen »

mdavis6890 wrote: post #372
yepthatsreality wrote: post #4

The restaurant industry has known the solution for a long time but everyone wants to pretend it would be too difficult. Stop the tipping guilt trip placed on the public, raise your prices 20%, and pay your employees a livable wage. The public will still show up to eat in your restaurant.

What we are observing is the Demand Curve shifting left (people less interested in eating out) and the Supply Curve shifting down (the people willing to work in restaurants for any given wage is going down). Remember that supply and demand curves cover all wages/prices and quantities, they are not specific to a certain price/wage or quantity. This is observed as a shortage - more customers willing to buy a restaurant…

I don't think there's much evidence of a sustained decrease in demand for dining.

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Post by tashoecraft »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #4

The restaurant industry has known the solution for a long time but everyone wants to pretend it would be too difficult. Stop the tipping guilt trip placed on the public, raise your prices 20%, and pay your employees a livable wage. The public will still show up to eat in your restaurant.

This would have to be put in place at the government level, otherwise it won’t work. A restaurant by me tried it and struggled to keep waitstaff because they can make so much elsewhere..in untaxed cash. If they doubled their prices no one would come

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Post by SavantIdiot »

ericbarrett wrote: post #73

Wages/insurance/tips are an ongoing concern of food service work, but I want to set that aside and talk about the other half of the article. Customer entitlement is out of control and anybody who works with the general public will tell you it’s gotten even worse since the pandemic—and it wasn’t trending in the right direction before. Flight attendants, park rangers, government clerks, the anecdotes are everywhere, in…

Fear.

When people feel up against the wall, all social protocol and laws go out the window.

In the US, a faction of politicians are pushing apocalyptic thinking so hard, that everyone is getting the fear: not just the doomsayers and their followers.

But it actually is getting worse. We're in a new pandemic due to to ignorance, half of the US is on fire, cost of living there is through the roof, there are armed militia rising with a political bent, and their supporting politicians are encouraging violence.... Basically, the Karens of the US are being told it is their patriotic duty to be entitled. This all comes out as panic and "me first" behavior in everyone, not just Karens, but the people that have to deal with them, it accumulates.

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