The undiscovered country: Can suicide be predicted?
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#2Robert Lowell once said that if humans had access to a button that would kill us instantly and painlessly, we would all press it sooner or later.
I think this explains suicide better: For most, it’s an irrational act done in the spur of the moment.
What I think is more interesting is when suicide is done as a rational act with planning, and consideration for others.
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#3I would tend to assume suicide is fairly predictable with high sensitivity and the data many corporations have from surveillance of customers tbh.
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#4Robert Lowell once said that if humans had access to a button that would kill us instantly and painlessly, we would all press it sooner or later. I think this explains suicide better: For most, it’s an irrational act done in the spur of the moment. What I think is more interesting is when suicide is done as a rational act with planning, and consideration for others.
Someone can think about killing themselves for months or years before actually doing it.. are you suggesting that is irrational because there wasn't a plan or consideration of others?
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#5Just allow people the basic freedom to leave the fuck out of this world if they really want to.
But no, that would mean one less entity to milk for labor and money.
Re: The undiscovered country: Can suicide be predicted?
#6Robert Lowell once said that if humans had access to a button that would kill us instantly and painlessly, we would all press it sooner or later. I think this explains suicide better: For most, it’s an irrational act done in the spur of the moment. What I think is more interesting is when suicide is done as a rational act with planning, and consideration for others.
Someone can think about killing themselves for months or years before actually doing it.. are you suggesting that is irrational because there wasn't a plan or consideration of others?
The final act itself is either rational, or irrational. I think most people commit suicide as an irrational sudden decision. They may have thought about it, they may have planned about it, but I think there’s a clear delineation between someone who says screw it, and kills themselves, versus someone who plans and commits the act with thoughtful deliberation. To make it easier to understand, perhaps you might look at this between a person who sees a train coming and decides in that moment tk step in front of the train, and someone who takes a Final Exit approach at home.
The mystery is what is going through the persons mind at the moment of self execution.
edit: I used the wrong word to describe a final act.
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#7Well that's an interesting way to fight ad blockers. Hiding the whole content.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone can think about killing themselves for months or years before actually doing it.. are you suggesting that is irrational because there wasn't a plan or consideration of others?
The final act itself is either rational, or irrational. I think most people commit suicide as an irrational sudden decision. They may have thought about it, they may have planned about it, but I think there’s a clear delineation between someone who says screw it, and kills themselves, versus someone who plans and commits the act with thoughtful deliberation. To make it easier to understand, perhaps you might look at…
(sorry to be that guy, just a useful FYI)
I think you may want "ultimate"? penultimate = second-to-last.
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Re: The undiscovered country: Can suicide be predicted?
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone can think about killing themselves for months or years before actually doing it.. are you suggesting that is irrational because there wasn't a plan or consideration of others?
The final act itself is either rational, or irrational. I think most people commit suicide as an irrational sudden decision. They may have thought about it, they may have planned about it, but I think there’s a clear delineation between someone who says screw it, and kills themselves, versus someone who plans and commits the act with thoughtful deliberation. To make it easier to understand, perhaps you might look at…
Living can be irrational too. There are plenty of people who are completely miserable with no hope or plan to make anything better, but still choose to live out of pure fear of death.
There's always a conversation over whether suicide is rational, but no one thinks to ask if living is rational.