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Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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I don't get the outrage? Users bought an ad machine and they are being served ads. That should have been understood. Solution: Buy non-smart TVs

Users bought more than $200 streaming device without ads, Google pushed a new update to Android TV OS which include ads 2/3 of your homescreen.

Shield users expected NVIDIA to disable these ads or add a new launcher.

NVIDIA does not deliver, users are now testing third party launchers.

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You actually think they care? I get ads for apps I already have installed. YouTube says "time to revisit this app". Google knows I have it, yet they still take the advertiser's money and make me watch the ad. Over and over again.

That has long bothered me as well, like we have some of the brightest minds in CS working on…how to collect, analyze, and extract value from telemetry via targeted advertising, yet so much of it is still so awful and irrelevant. The best kind of ads would be like a great salesman IMO - help me solve a real problem that I’m having and teach me something that is actually valuable to me in a non-condescending pressure-f…

Some of the brightest minds in CS are working on maximizing ad revenue for their employer. That isn't necessarily the same thing as making the most relevant (whatever that means) ads.

Your interaction mocking the ad is engagement which may generate another penny of revenue for Facebook.

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post #154

Speaking of this, YouTube changed recently for me and now unskippable ads are 15 seconds and if you watch them on a chromecast you can’t skip them from your phone anymore. You have to go into “remote control mode” and navigate the on-screen UI. Nothing grinds my gears worse than stuff you buy and integrate into your life unnecessarily degrading in performance/behaviour. I might actually be about done with YouTube, wh…

The correct thing to do for YouTube is to pay for the ad-free Premium version ( which also supports "content creators" more). A lot of people say they'd pay if they were given the option to remove ads, yet surprisingly few people opt to do it for YouTube ( which you can even share with friends and family up to 5 accounts, so it can be a decent deal). Why?

Is it actually 100% completely ad-free, or is it like Hulu where you pay and still have some ads sometimes?

Because it's not entirely clear on their premium page.

Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The correct thing to do for YouTube is to pay for the ad-free Premium version ( which also supports "content creators" more). A lot of people say they'd pay if they were given the option to remove ads, yet surprisingly few people opt to do it for YouTube ( which you can even share with friends and family up to 5 accounts, so it can be a decent deal). Why?

Is it actually 100% completely ad-free, or is it like Hulu where you pay and still have some ads sometimes? Because it's not entirely clear on their premium page.

It's YouTube ads free. If in the video itself the creator(s) advertise something, it doesn't magically skip it.

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Many apps send marketing notifications anyway. And there seems to be no way to report it.

Not sure what you mean by "send marketing notifications anyway," since they are allowed to do that now. Are you saying they do it after you opt-out of the marketing notifications in-app?

Yes.

Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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My shield updated to this the other day. I'm pretty furious about it, it's not a cheap device, and it's certainly not Google's. To be adding these "features" without asking, irrespective of whatever agreement between me, Nvidia or Google exists, is ridiculous. I know it's in whatever terms I, uh, "accepted", but there's just no escaping it in this day and age. Fortunately, I know how to use ADB and just installed ano…

Wouldn't a hosts file or a local DNS[1] or VPN[2][3] with hosts file support solve that without having to switch software ? I'm using Netguard on Android devices I don't want to root and it's been good. Plus it does per-app firewalling as well. [1]: https://www.zenz-solutions.de [2]: https://netguard.me [3]: https://blokada.org

https://getintra.org/ is the only DNS client I know of that doesn't leak DNS connections over TCP, most other DNS apps (including the 3 mentioned here) do. Blokada is marked with anti-features tag by f-droid for telemetry: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/8536 (Note: Intra, though open-source, has telemetry in it too).

Disclaimer: I co-develop a Intra fork.

Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

#297

I don't get the outrage? Users bought an ad machine and they are being served ads. That should have been understood. Solution: Buy non-smart TVs

Users bought more than $200 streaming device without ads, Google pushed a new update to Android TV OS which include ads 2/3 of your homescreen. Shield users expected NVIDIA to disable these ads or add a new launcher. NVIDIA does not deliver, users are now testing third party launchers.

Shouldn't the assumption at this point be the opposite? Nearly every smart device ever released has either shown ads or tracked your activity and sold that to the highest bidder. Buying a streaming device and expecting the opposite at this point is crazy.

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post #154

Speaking of this, YouTube changed recently for me and now unskippable ads are 15 seconds and if you watch them on a chromecast you can’t skip them from your phone anymore. You have to go into “remote control mode” and navigate the on-screen UI. Nothing grinds my gears worse than stuff you buy and integrate into your life unnecessarily degrading in performance/behaviour. I might actually be about done with YouTube, wh…

The correct thing to do for YouTube is to pay for the ad-free Premium version ( which also supports "content creators" more). A lot of people say they'd pay if they were given the option to remove ads, yet surprisingly few people opt to do it for YouTube ( which you can even share with friends and family up to 5 accounts, so it can be a decent deal). Why?

People don't want to pay for YouTube Premium because it is bundled with YouTube Music.

Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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I'm guessing the Android Launcher is next to have banner ads.

I think this is unlikely, but should it become the case, you can easily install an alternative launcher, something presumably impossible on the sheild. Also, the default launcher happens to be something heavily customized by each OEM (likely extending the AOSP launcher which will never have ads or more typically extending a shared base launcher[0]), and I think routing ads through OEMs would be both a technical and l…

> I think this is unlikely, but should it become the case, you can easily install an alternative launcher, something presumably impossible on the sheild.

Pretty simple to do on the Shield too.

Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

#300

I bought a PC from a local computer refurbishing shop, FreeGeek. It was $80 and has more than enough hardware to run Linux and a web browser. Works great!

Is this an ad?

It is not an ad, no. I was just giving a shout-out to my local charity that refurbishes computers and provides them to low-income individuals.

Additionally, I was pointing out I have a full-featured desktop PC running an open source operating system, so I just sidestep the problem a lot of these dongles and gadgets introduce.

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