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Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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Post by 6510 »

6510 wrote: post #135
syntheticnature wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want a computer connected to your TV instead of a streaming box, you know where to find it.

My HP mini is to crappy to play youtube videos on its tiny poor resolution screen even playing them on the lowest resolution (which shouldn't even count) but if I download the videos and attach a huge monitor to it VLC just cruises though GB+ sized HD video files without dropping a frame. Transmission is good enough. Spend another 7 euro on a TB storage device[0] - you deserve it! More movies to watch than your healt…

I'm still laughing.

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Post by nichos »

craftinator wrote: post #239
sdflhasjd wrote: post #6

My shield updated to this the other day. I'm pretty furious about it, it's not a cheap device, and it's certainly not Google's. To be adding these "features" without asking, irrespective of whatever agreement between me, Nvidia or Google exists, is ridiculous. I know it's in whatever terms I, uh, "accepted", but there's just no escaping it in this day and age. Fortunately, I know how to use ADB and just installed ano…

Honestly, why do people buy shit like this when you can just hook a raspberry pi to your tv and stream through that? I'm asking a real question here, I simply can't understand what makes this a desirable thing for anyone.

Ease of use. Pis are great, but not a trivial setup, especially when you get in to adding ir commands.

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Post by moepstar »

swiley wrote: post #185
cbsks wrote: post #52

As soon as the ads appeared I voted with my wallet and ditched my Shield for an Apple TV. So far I don’t have any complaints.

You didn't vote with your wallet, you already bought the shield. Then you bought another device with closed firmware from another company with their own ad service.

Are you talking about iAd?

That's gone, discontinued in 2016...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAd

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Post by brokenmachine »

hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #113
pdimitar wrote: post #84

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They'll just delete the bad reviews after the initial PR storm subsides. Various big apps have been "caught" in the past doing it. Apparently if you have Google's ear then everything is possible under the table. This also reminds me of the famous BlizzCon where they announced Diablo Immortal -- where the Chinese exec infamously exclaimed (after the audience started booing): "Do you guys not have phones?" -- when the…

They won't even wait that long. If they can find anyone on the internet telling other people to go give negative reviews to an app, they claim all negative reviews are due to that call to action. That gives them "justification" to delete all of them as "inauthentic".

Why would they need justification?

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Post by Aissen »

tyingq wrote: post #86
pdimitar wrote: post #77

I might be the dumbest observer on these trends around here but does it seem to somebody else that this is a normal part of the end-of-life lifecycle of many devices and that it usually goes like this... - "Sir, sales are falling... we actually haven't had new sales in months". - "How much does it cost to support the infrastructure for these devices?" - "X million a month". - "Feck it. Cram ads into them, we're not s…

I don't think NVidea is getting any of the revenue for these ads. If I understand it right, Google is getting the revenue...the launcher is Google's app.

I'm pretty sure it's the opposite, having worked in the set-top-box industry. What makes you say that ?

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Post by raxxorrax »

Nicksil wrote: post #102
swiley wrote: post #23

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>but there's just no escaping it in this day and age. Yes there is. Absolutely no closed software ever. That's the rule you use. Even the modem on the phone I'm typing this on is running FOSS firmware. Don't compromise your freedom for convenience, you always end up with neither when you do.

>Yes there is. Absolutely no closed software ever. That's the rule you use. Even the modem on the phone I'm typing this on is running FOSS firmware. Don't compromise your freedom for convenience, you always end up with neither when you do. I don't think I understand fully the point you're trying to make. How does free and open source software prevent a software developer from inserting the code necessary for behavior…

Use a Intel NUC or similar device instead of a Nvidia Shield and it will offer more functionality without ads.

TV streaming, Games streaming from local network at least, music...

A closed environment doesn't allow for competition, so they will monetize it to the greatest degree. That would include ads.

Android TV is really bad spyware for that matter... surprised it can even exist with Google TV having flopped that hard.

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Post by raxxorrax »

mumblemumble wrote: post #148
wildrhythms wrote: post #13

It's really incredible how the average American home spends some $116/mo for television[1], and is still subjected to 16 minutes of advertisements per hour of entertainment. [1] https://www.doxo.com/insights/united-states-of-bill-pay-doxo...

I suppose it's the price of convenience? For my part, I pay a lot less for just Internet, borrow DVDs from the public library, and occasionally pay a la carte to stream specific shows I particularly want to watch. It's definitely less expensive in the long run, but my real motivation is that I really hate ads, enough so that I'm willing to put up with lower definition (the library doesn't do as much in the way of blu…

Having to watch ads isn't convenient at all. This is certainly a factor why people left TV for streams in the first place, even if they get introduced here more and more.

I am subbed to some streaming services and the moment they introduce ads I will leave. TV-like ads won't be able to compete here.

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Post by schipplock »

tomjen3 wrote: post #218
mataug wrote: post #49

Ads were the main reason why I stopped using my FireTV and switched to an AppleTV. If I pay for the device, and then I also pay for Amazon Prime, I expect atleast the main UI to be Ad-free.

Does prime still have these inbetween episode ads for their other shows? I have been considering going back but I don't want to pay for a service that does that.

Only at the beginning, sometimes inbetween.

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr »

brokenmachine wrote: post #274
hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't even wait that long. If they can find anyone on the internet telling other people to go give negative reviews to an app, they claim all negative reviews are due to that call to action. That gives them "justification" to delete all of them as "inauthentic".

Why would they need justification?

No idea. Makes the lawyers happy, perhaps?

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Post by Hammershaft »

bserge wrote: post #229
pdimitar wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'll just delete the bad reviews after the initial PR storm subsides. Various big apps have been "caught" in the past doing it. Apparently if you have Google's ear then everything is possible under the table. This also reminds me of the famous BlizzCon where they announced Diablo Immortal -- where the Chinese exec infamously exclaimed (after the audience started booing): "Do you guys not have phones?" -- when the…

I am beginning to go insane from YouTube ads, but in this case I'll say those reviews should be considered illegitimate. It is rather easy to start a negative review campaign, but no one ever participates in a good review campaign. There's no rage in that, that's why. Inciting people to give 1 star reviews quickly snowballs into even people who never used the app doing it. Where's the fairness in that? I am watching…

What is the harm if a company that screws its customers over gets punished out of proportion? It incentivizes companies to be better to their customers.
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