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Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Eh, almost no one I’ve seen has ever spent less by moving to their own home. They’ll typically end up spending at least half of what they spent as rent just on things other than the mortgage (which would typically be much higher than the rent by itself). Now of course they often would get a larger, nicer place that’s exactly what they wanted, but let’s not kid ourselves that home ownership is somehow cheaper. It neve…

If you look at the home as a long-term investment, it's almost always cheaper than renting since your mortgage stays the same, while rents almost always rise. You may be paying more in mortgage+taxes+insurance+maintenance when you buy the house, but 10 year later, rents have almost certainly gone up.

> If you look at the home as a long-term investment, it's almost always cheaper than renting since your mortgage stays the same, while rents almost always rise.

We had our monthly house payment more than double due to hurricane insurance increases. This even tho our particular area hasn't had a landfall in 100 years & gets hit less than DC, NYC, etc.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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If you look at the home as a long-term investment, it's almost always cheaper than renting since your mortgage stays the same, while rents almost always rise. You may be paying more in mortgage+taxes+insurance+maintenance when you buy the house, but 10 year later, rents have almost certainly gone up.

> If you look at the home as a long-term investment, it's almost always cheaper than renting since your mortgage stays the same, while rents almost always rise. We had our monthly house payment more than double due to hurricane insurance increases. This even tho our particular area hasn't had a landfall in 100 years & gets hit less than DC, NYC, etc.

but apartment building owners didn't see a corresponding increase?

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Where do I enter the intangible value of owning: "Don't have to worry about getting priced out if the neighborhood becomes popular; can do any improvements I want, when I want, how I want, and they become an asset; don't have to worry about not getting lease renewed at an inconvenient time (perhaps in the middle of a school year) when the owner's nephew gets divorced and needs a place; on the other hand, don't have t…

> Don't have to worry about getting priced out if the neighborhood becomes popular That's what property taxes are for.

And if they cant raise taxes they'll just legislate your standard of living via bylaw then sick enforcement on you to the same effect.

"Rich but not Koch and Murdoch rich" people are f-ing terrible to live with. They give a shit about everything.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Anyone have luck with that default $2500 maintenance budget? My lawn guy is basically that whole budget. Any service call is $500 minimum. I’ve replaced roofs, siding, HVAC systems, water hearers, etc. Trimming my mature trees costs over $3000! I know it’s just a placeholder but I always see an insanely low placeholder on these calculators and can’t help but think they are not properly setting expectations for prospe…

Nobody is subbing out literally everything. Most people in-house half or more of their tasks for substantial savings.

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These calculators don't reflect the reality/absurdity of the current economy. Anecdotal, but I bought a house in eastern California last year for $600k, now Zillow says it's worth $835k. Also, I'll unlikely ever be able to afford a house in the Bay Area, even though I make $220k/year at a company there. Still don't know what I'll do if my employer makes us return to the SF office in a few months. Relatedly, a ~70 yea…

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Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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These calculators don't reflect the reality/absurdity of the current economy. Anecdotal, but I bought a house in eastern California last year for $600k, now Zillow says it's worth $835k. Also, I'll unlikely ever be able to afford a house in the Bay Area, even though I make $220k/year at a company there. Still don't know what I'll do if my employer makes us return to the SF office in a few months. Relatedly, a ~70 yea…

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The parent comment made no complaints and their salary offers no implications on the greater health of the economy.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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> Consider a $150 repair for your AC These are precisely the examples I was cursing after I bought my house. They were the ones existing homeowners always talked about. A $150 repair for the AC is nothing. The prospective homeowner needs to think about things like: "Your roof is shot." The lowest bid is $15,000. Check is due before they leave your property. "Your trees are dying." Cost of cutting them out and replaci…

> "Your roof is shot." The lowest bid is $15,000. Check is due before they leave your property. When you buy the house, you should have had an idea on how much it costs, and saved for it. $15K over 30 years is nothing. Also, of course this depends on where you live and how big your roof is, but for my house, $15K is overpriced. I recently got bids and while the numbers varied quite a bit, $11K was more typical. Of co…

Move the decimal one place to the right if you're DIYing.

Most people are going to DIY 1/3 to 3/4 the stuff on that list depending on whether or not their checking account is fat enough to easily write the check in the first place.

Edit: move the decimal left.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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In 2021, the buy vs rent decision is a little like Should I buy a whale ranch on Mars or Venus? I suggest that the decision whether to rent a house might want to take into account that each rental ad is getting hundreds of applicants, each day - with few new ads showing up. ref: https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/mil-money/2021/07... ref: https://www.amisun.com/2021/06/27/once-in-a-generation-housi... ref: ht…

Buying isn't any better with sales going to all-cash buyers who are paying way above and beyond market. If that's the price houses are selling for, that is the market price.

I suspect that was intended to mean "list price".

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Funny, I'm the opposite. The more I get older the less I want to deal with bullshit home maintenance, and the infinite time suck that is customization and endless improvements. Really part of a general life shift from "if you want it done right, do it yourself" and "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" -- to "outsourcing is a valuable tool" and "perfection is the enemy of the good". I realize my time is valua…

Regardless of age, needs and priorities change. There's no joy in moving, but it's still better than the time suck of hiring a contractor, electrician, and/or plumber. AND having to pay them. Owning is nice. But it's more limited and more time consuming. There's a cost associated with that.

I dont like the process of moving, but the cleanup, and starting again is a wonderful relief from a previous burden.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#230

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> "Your roof is shot." The lowest bid is $15,000. Check is due before they leave your property. When you buy the house, you should have had an idea on how much it costs, and saved for it. $15K over 30 years is nothing. Also, of course this depends on where you live and how big your roof is, but for my house, $15K is overpriced. I recently got bids and while the numbers varied quite a bit, $11K was more typical. Of co…

Move the decimal one place to the right if you're DIYing. Most people are going to DIY 1/3 to 3/4 the stuff on that list depending on whether or not their checking account is fat enough to easily write the check in the first place. Edit: move the decimal left.

> Move the decimal one place to the right if you're DIYing.

I’m not sure of this is a mistake or commentary on the cost of not doing it right the first time.

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