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Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#191

You get old enough, and you get tired of somebody else making decisions from afar that affect your day to day life with no real consequences to them. Little things like the kitchen layout being moronic and having zero drawers get old when it isn't your choice to remodel or live with it. And while it's nice to say "just move", let's not forget that moving costs a couple months rent and a massive time investment to fin…

Eh, almost no one I’ve seen has ever spent less by moving to their own home. They’ll typically end up spending at least half of what they spent as rent just on things other than the mortgage (which would typically be much higher than the rent by itself). Now of course they often would get a larger, nicer place that’s exactly what they wanted, but let’s not kid ourselves that home ownership is somehow cheaper. It neve…

At some point, though, the mortgage is paid off and maybe you're paying something like $1K/month for taxes and maintenance for a property that may have a decent amount of land if you're outside a city--an amount that isn't going to go up. (Taxes vary a lot of course although that is presumably reflected in area rents as well.)

You may be right, especially absent property appreciation, but there's a lot of value in having a fairly predictable set of costs into an indefinite future absent really unpredictable problems. And not being forced to move at some point.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#192
I think the largest issue for me with renting is dealing with someone that pretends to be following the law. All I see is a bunch of management companies that are collecting $40 here and $40 there. If it truly wasn't about the background check fee, those prices would be pass through and automated on a website - not a $40 check made out to the management company. It's an industry rife with a ton of illegal and evil practices. We don't have a dog and someone tried to charge us $300 cleaning fee for a giant dog piss area in a closet. I loathe renting with a passion.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#193

You get old enough, and you get tired of somebody else making decisions from afar that affect your day to day life with no real consequences to them. Little things like the kitchen layout being moronic and having zero drawers get old when it isn't your choice to remodel or live with it. And while it's nice to say "just move", let's not forget that moving costs a couple months rent and a massive time investment to fin…

Eh, almost no one I’ve seen has ever spent less by moving to their own home. They’ll typically end up spending at least half of what they spent as rent just on things other than the mortgage (which would typically be much higher than the rent by itself). Now of course they often would get a larger, nicer place that’s exactly what they wanted, but let’s not kid ourselves that home ownership is somehow cheaper. It neve…

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Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying isn't any better with sales going to all-cash buyers who are paying way above and beyond market. If that's the price houses are selling for, that is the market price.

Guess you’re not familiar with the concept of scarcity and outlier buyers.

Or, more simply, bubbles.

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#195
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One piece of millenial defeatism I hear a lot is "Ugh, I'll never be able to afford a 20% down payment, home ownership is impossible" I'm not sure where this myth came from, but as a millenial who went through the buying process in 2012 and again in 2016, I remember both times the lender just asked how much we wanted to put down. We could have gone as low as 3%, or maybe even lower. Yes, you have to pay PMI (private…

I mean this is the definition of a strawman argument. Whether it's 10 or 20% down payment is not that significant. Even 5% is un-affordable. The median sale price of a home was $347,000 last month (0). 5% down on that is $17,350, accounting for closing costs you're going to need around $24,000 in cash to purchase a home. Which isn't all that much money, except if you consider that it's more than 1/3rd of the median f…

Who pays closing costs when you are buying a house for the first time?

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#196

These calculators don't reflect the reality/absurdity of the current economy. Anecdotal, but I bought a house in eastern California last year for $600k, now Zillow says it's worth $835k. Also, I'll unlikely ever be able to afford a house in the Bay Area, even though I make $220k/year at a company there. Still don't know what I'll do if my employer makes us return to the SF office in a few months. Relatedly, a ~70 yea…

I submit the housing market of Phoenix, Arizona as an example of peak bubble. There are numerous houses on the market today that were previously sold... ~30 days ago. This feels more ludicrous than the speculative housing bubble of '07.

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#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, duplexes are houses with two units in them vs. a two floor apartment.

That’s a stacked townhome.

On the 30th floor of an apartment building?

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#198
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a few months in to a 15 year mortgage after recently refinanced at a 2.125%. Here's a rough breakdown of where each dollar of my last mortgage payment went: Principal: 60% Interest: 22% Escrow(Taxes + Insurance): 18% And of course the percentage going to interest only goes down with each passing month. The conventional wisdom that you are paying mostly interest in the beginning a) really only applies to 30 year…

Yea, you are right about the 2% interest rates changing the breakdown. I was referencing numbers I ran back when rates were 3-4%. That said, most folks still rely on 30 years mortgages!

I got a 30 year fixed at 3% back in march. My first payment had 40.7% going towards principal which is not bad at all in my opinion. Also, I wouldn't count property tax and homeowners insurance as something additional about owning as you are effectively paying that when renting, it is just baked into the rental price. Stupid realtor fees though definitely will bite you in the ass.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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My wife wants to buy a house, but I'm unable to make life decisions without trying to minmax them. I wasn't satisfied with existing rent vs. buy calculators, so I decided to build my own! I'm not a developer, so I apologize if it's a little rough looking... Some things it takes into account: - The actual rate of return on your down payment and extra costs of a house - Inflation - Itemized deductions on your taxes - T…

I'd love it to provide some mechanism for guestimating my taxes (maybe based on the state or city I live in) - I was too lazy to dig out a tax return to fill out those fields, which meant I couldn't easily use the calculator.

Especially outside of major cities, there are about a gazillion towns that have different tax rates that go to paying the local schools, emergency services, and town administration. Maybe there are APIs for that sort of information but I don't know.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#200

You get old enough, and you get tired of somebody else making decisions from afar that affect your day to day life with no real consequences to them. Little things like the kitchen layout being moronic and having zero drawers get old when it isn't your choice to remodel or live with it. And while it's nice to say "just move", let's not forget that moving costs a couple months rent and a massive time investment to fin…

Eh, almost no one I’ve seen has ever spent less by moving to their own home. They’ll typically end up spending at least half of what they spent as rent just on things other than the mortgage (which would typically be much higher than the rent by itself). Now of course they often would get a larger, nicer place that’s exactly what they wanted, but let’s not kid ourselves that home ownership is somehow cheaper. It neve…

I bought my house for 225k, our neighborhood is selling for 650k now.

My mortgage is much more affordable than the rents that have gone up over the years to more closely reflect the 650k pricing.

But damn the taxes are gonna hurt everyone here... renter or owner (as the renter you're just covering them for the owner)

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