You're not the customer. You're the product.
You can still turn the screen off. For now.
Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV
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Apple no longer prohibits ads in notifications as of March last year https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/04/apple-now-allows-push-notific... Good way to get your notification privileges revoked though. I wish Apple would add granular notification categories within apps so that you could approve particular types of notifications while denying others. A quick google says Android 8 did this in 2017. Apple's policy on this is to…
Many apps send marketing notifications anyway. And there seems to be no way to report it.
Not sure what you mean by "send marketing notifications anyway," since they are allowed to do that now.
Are you saying they do it after you opt-out of the marketing notifications in-app?
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I suppose it's the price of convenience? For my part, I pay a lot less for just Internet, borrow DVDs from the public library, and occasionally pay a la carte to stream specific shows I particularly want to watch. It's definitely less expensive in the long run, but my real motivation is that I really hate ads, enough so that I'm willing to put up with lower definition (the library doesn't do as much in the way of blu…
I don't know if it's fair to describe cable TV as convenience. Netflix costs about a tenth as much as cable TV (though it does require Internet so if you'd otherwise not have Internet maybe bump it up to half the cost) and provides a generally better service. People are paying out of laziness.
Netflix is worth 10 times less. Netflix thinks a season is 10 episodes or less.
Popular shows get cancelled a few get kept but seasons take years to come out. The availability of content goes down every year. I'm not sure it's worth what they are charging for compared to Prime, etc
With cable you get to pick a channel and let them broadcast to you. You don't select the next episode you select a channel. The benefit of selecting a channel over an episode or series is you don't have to think what should I watch next. Weekdays at this time they will play a show you expect.. it's freeing to just put a channel on and you get a certain background rhythm.
When you stream the lack of ads means the lack of mental breaks. The watcher doesn't have time to take in the last 8-12 minutes and think a.out it without the ads. That causes one show to blend into another and at the end of the binge you can hardly remember the details.
Plus you get tons of on demand content channels offer cable subscribers. News, Sports, Live Content, Local channels all exist in cable but not streaming.
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One aspect of modern hardware products which contain a lot of software is that they need a steady stream of software updates in order to remain useful and functional. Security updates are essential. Not only is a device full of unpatched vulnerabilities dangerous to use, but as we saw with the recent Western Digital scandal, is a serious risk to the continued functionality of the device. Because the Shield is a strea…
Yes, it is a bad thing. I paid fair and square for the device. I expect the vendor to have factored in all costs beforehand for the expected lifetime of the device. If it physically lasts 10 years then bill me all your expenses for those 10 years. Don't bill me for 3-4 years and then go "Oops, you still have that device, huh? Take those ads because we can't finance support for 6-7 more years out of all our billions.…
You own the device, sure, but you don't own the content that's playing on it, nor the servers delivering it.
These are profit oriented institutions. Once they've saturated the market, their only way to increase profits is to increase their per user profits.
The economy is designed to have your TV start showing ads.
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#196We're heading back to the 2000s. I fully expect YouTube to put ads into premium eventually. You are too valuable a commodity to them to do otherwise. (If you think you are a customer then lol, the advertisers are the customers)
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Well, it seems that Google (and various other corporations) are finally entering their endgame and are showing their true colors. I am eager to find out if the world can fight back meaningfully. Here's hoping. {raises glass}
The only way to solve this is to break up Google (or rather Alphabet) but I don't see this happening. Anti-trust got way too soft.
Why do you think that breaking Google apart would make the portions that don't directly receive money from advertisements less likely to sell ad space?
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#198My shield updated to this the other day. I'm pretty furious about it, it's not a cheap device, and it's certainly not Google's. To be adding these "features" without asking, irrespective of whatever agreement between me, Nvidia or Google exists, is ridiculous. I know it's in whatever terms I, uh, "accepted", but there's just no escaping it in this day and age. Fortunately, I know how to use ADB and just installed ano…
I think people here need to realize that in terms of preference, they are massive outliers.
While you can conceptualize recommendations for things you have not bought as Ads, there is likely no money changing hands here for these to displayed.
And most people actually like these features: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/19/22580720/android-tv-watch...
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#199It's really incredible how the average American home spends some $116/mo for television[1], and is still subjected to 16 minutes of advertisements per hour of entertainment. [1] https://www.doxo.com/insights/united-states-of-bill-pay-doxo...
>$116/mo for television The link you posted says that's cable and internet, not television.
And at least for Comcast and Fios, the marginal cost to add a basic cable package is more like 30-40 bucks. I.e., if you went from just internet to internet and TV it only adds 30-40 bucks.
That's a better reflect of what you are really paying for the TV aspect.
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Yes, it is a bad thing. I paid fair and square for the device. I expect the vendor to have factored in all costs beforehand for the expected lifetime of the device. If it physically lasts 10 years then bill me all your expenses for those 10 years. Don't bill me for 3-4 years and then go "Oops, you still have that device, huh? Take those ads because we can't finance support for 6-7 more years out of all our billions.…
You own the device, sure, but you don't own the content that's playing on it, nor the servers delivering it. These are profit oriented institutions. Once they've saturated the market, their only way to increase profits is to increase their per user profits. The economy is designed to have your TV start showing ads.
Well, I wish them luck. Practically every family knows one "IT person" and when we all collectively get fed up, come and watch how quickly do we drain the second-hand market of $200 laptops that we will repurpose as complete private home content consumption solutions.
I get how the business model of those services works btw -- but it's flawed from the beginning because it relies on keeping the users hostage.
The corps really underestimate the passive resistance they will meet. They think people will go to court and challenge their unbeatable lawyers there. No, nobody is going to do that. People will just work around those corporations (neighborhood private networks with NAS-es, old-school sharing of movies on DVDs or USB drives etc.; there are many ways).