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Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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People are missing out on a very enjoyable past time because of fear mongering. It's subjective that people would find it enjoyable. Even of all the past times one can do, there are similar ones, like birding, hiking, gardening, etc. We're not short on past times that, even in the worst case, won't even leave you vomiting.

Hiking is far from risk-free, there are many ways to die and people do so somewhat regularly.

No one needs to pick up a manual to hike.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

I'd encourage anyone interested in this to watch Alan Rockefeller's fantastic talks on psilocybin mushroom identification: [1] [2]

If you do decide to pick your own mushrooms, definitely look for the signs he mentions in the videos, make spore prints, and post pictures of the mushrooms to the sites he recommends, where experts can identify them for you.

And remember: There are old mushroom hunters, and there are bold mushroom hunters. But there are no old, bold mushroom hunters.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcL-7u80kjs

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInqVRRva7M

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hiking is far from risk-free, there are many ways to die and people do so somewhat regularly.

No one needs to pick up a manual to hike.

Um, yeah you do. You need to be able to, at a minimum, survive overnight in the event you get stuck up there.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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> Nicholas - We had this family doctor came around and we knew pretty well actually what they were. I mean, we looked in the book the very next morning when Alastair started feeling ill and Charlotte was already ill. It was so clear from the photograph that what we had eaten, it wasn't a cep. It was themushroom called cortinarius speciosissimus which some people call the deadly webcap apparently. It had a rather comf…

Any time someone says "this is xyz 101, how could anyone be so confused", I hear instead "the human capacity for doing something without what others view as 'minimum sufficient education to survive it' remains unchanged throughout human history", which is precisely why the warnings are so dire. It's not to scare people away, it's just to offer them a defense versus their own curiosity and impulsiveness until they cho…

I guess... I mean, it is more mysterious than you suggest, given that this fellow had been foraging for 10 years apparently.

It's like a driver mixing up the gas and the brake pedal. I don't really have an explanation.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

"There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright."

This is false and dangerous misinformation!

Mushrooms can certainly kill you, and people have died from eating poisonous mushrooms.

Just one example, from the Amanita[1] genus:

"Several members of the section Phalloidieae are notable for their toxicity, containing toxins known as amatoxins, which can cause liver failure and death. These include the death cap A. phalloides; species known as destroying angels, including A. virosa, A. bisporigera and A. ocreata; and the fool's mushroom, A. verna."

"More recently, a series in the subgenus Lepidella has been found to cause acute kidney failure, including A. smithiana of northwestern North America, A. pseudoporphyria of Japan, and A. proxima of southern Europe."

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita#Toxicity

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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As someone who forages mushrooms pretty extensively my advice is not to forage psychedelic mushrooms as a beginner. Most psilocybin mushrooms fall into the colloquial category of "LBMs" (little brown mushrooms) and the advice is almost always not to forage LBMs because there a million of them, they all look alike, and you might not know from region to region what the risk of look a likes are. ' So unless you have a r…

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

This is absolutely true. I'm an amateur forager, but try to make it out with the mushroom club once per year to learn more. For me, it started with identifying one mushroom (morels) and the variants that make people sick.

Part of me doesn't mind that people stay afraid, it's less competition for a great time hunting. The other part rolls their eyes at those who don't do educated risk for the reward.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a crazy amount of inertia around the 'mushroom foraging is only for experts' idea. I was just telling my mother in law this weekend that in our area there are no killer mushrooms. There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright. I was trying to encourage her to try some of the more well known edible wild varieties (wh…

"There are mushrooms that taste very bad, and (in the worst case) will cause stomach upset (vomiting) but nothing that will kill you outright." This is false and dangerous misinformation! Mushrooms can certainly kill you, and people have died from eating poisonous mushrooms. Just one example, from the Amanita[1] genus: "Several members of the section Phalloidieae are notable for their toxicity, containing toxins know…

He was noting in his specific locale, where it's entirely possible that there aren't any toxic/poisonous variants.

Re: Show HN: Magic Mushroom Map

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It's worth pointing out that if you're in the UK, for reasons that I'm sure make sense to someone, magic mushrooms are very illegal. Courtesy of the Basement Project [1]: * The 2005 Drugs Act amended the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 to clarify that both fresh and prepared (e.g. dried or stewed) magic mushrooms that contain psilocin or psilocybin (such as the ‘liberty cap’) are Class A drugs. This means it’s illegal to ha…

I'd be curious to read some reliable statistics on how many people in the UK (and the US) actually get arrested for picking wild psilocybin mushrooms.
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