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Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Thanks for posting - this is really helpful (reminds me of this similar NYT tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-cal...)

A few notes:

- "Final Cumulative Profit" is a bit confusing since this is not necessarily profit - this is how much less of a cost a house is over an apartment?

- Is there a way to factor in opportunity cost of down payment being in the market instead of tied up in the house?

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#22
post #8

House prices are not included in inflation estimates, rental prices are. That's another thing that should be considered.

There's a separate parameter to control the increase in house prices. My assumption is that houses have tended to increase faster than inflation in most markets.

>My assumption is that houses have tended to increase faster than inflation in most markets.

It does? Random chart I found: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/cpi2020-875x1.... It seems to be higher, but only slightly.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#25
post #9

Buying is better, if you are thinking a bit long term like 4-5+ Years. Now, why I said that: Here’s my story - I had lived in an apartment for 5 years. It’s my longest stretch at one place so far. I paid about $100k in rent for all of those years. When I left that place, I got nothing out of it. If I had a house, then I would had built some equity. Edit: removed - ‘Buying is always better’ from the first sentence

No it's not. In many cases it can be beneficial to rent and invest your money instead, as stocks have a higher longterm ROI than property.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is great!! The final cashflow amount of the house graph (in the example) ends in the negative, s this accurate?

It is accurate! While the house cashflow is negative in the example, it's at least less negative than the apartment cash flow. Maybe the moral of the story is living with your parents for free is better than either option!

If this calculator is rent vs buy, why does the graph compare house vs apartment? For both houses and apartments, they can be bought or rented. Are you someplace where one type of home can only be bought and the other can only be rented?

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#27
There's no way to put this into a calculator, but this decision isn't purely monetary. Do you enjoy having to maintain a home and property? If not, maybe buying a house isn't for you. Even if you hire someone, that can be a massive hassle, you have to worry about being ripped off, ...

If you're not settled in your career to where you can comfortably take off long stretches of time during the day, you probably shouldn't buy a house. It's generally a bad idea for someone at the beginning of a career. There's so much to learn and it never ends - that's valuable time that could go to refreshing your mind or building up career capital.

There's also the matter of risk. Are you willing and able to handle replacing your air conditioner, furnace, and roof in the same year? If you rent, you call the landlord and have them replace those things. You'll be okay if you have a big savings account or you don't mind putting it on a credit card with a high credit limit. If you've been in your house for two years and you spent everything on the down payment and furniture, you might have trouble sleeping at night.

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

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My wife wants to buy a house, but I'm unable to make life decisions without trying to minmax them. I wasn't satisfied with existing rent vs. buy calculators, so I decided to build my own! I'm not a developer, so I apologize if it's a little rough looking... Some things it takes into account: - The actual rate of return on your down payment and extra costs of a house - Inflation - Itemized deductions on your taxes - T…

This is nice. I definitely played around with some calculators like this when I was deciding to buy a house a few years ago.

Off the top of my head, some things I'd add to make this more useful to a wide audience:

- I don't know what I pay in state income and sales taxes. But I do know my income and my state's tax rate; income tax could be derived from that. I'm not sure how you'd estimate sales tax, though - you'd have to know how much of my spending is taxable.

- I've heard a rule of thumb that home maintenance costs are 1% of the home's value per year; maybe default to that, especially since a first-time home owner doesn't really know what those costs are. However, older houses will require more maintenance and that cost probably scales with square footage, not cost.

- you're assuming a 30-year mortgage - I'd put in the ability to change mortgage length. (Also, maybe a link to somewhere where I can find out what mortgage rates are.)

Re: Show HN: Should I Get a House? a better rent vs. buy calculator

#30

"Apartment" means rent and "House" means buying? I think that's confusing. It would be nice to auto update the graph every time something changes. It's nice that it has tips. Hi from Argentina! We have a somewhat different customs here so some fields are hard to guess. For example, I don't know if I can fill my taxes jointly. Another detail that confused me is that I didn't expect to sell the home after 14 years. It'…

Agree with the terminology being confusing. Houses can be rented and apartments (condominiums) can be purchased.
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