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The History of the Dot Com Era

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Re: The History of the Dot Com Era

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Ah yeah dude. I'm having a midlife crisis too. But the dot-com era was only about 97-99. I miss the bitcoin casino era, when anyone who could write a poker parser could make real money. Wait. I miss the time when we got our news from 60 Minutes and Peter Jennings. Here's another thought: We've never had it so good. We can write anything we can dream of, on any device, and deploy it anywhere, without corralling physic…

>move fast and break things mentality

A lot of todays IT is kind of core infrastructure and it hurt very much if you break things constant.

Just came to my mind now. Todays software is fat and slow like more and more people today vs. command liners are still the slim, sporty ones.

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Funnily enough I was looking for an article I read about a public figure and the website is long gone. Fortunately there was a copy on Archive.org but it really made me long for the days when the world and their dog felt excited enough to create websites that weren't commercial, weren't laden with ads, they were just labours of love. There were fan websites, sometimes linked together in web rings (I loved web rings)…

Did we lose it or did we just get much more stuff that is different from it and lose discoverability because the sheer amount of overall stuff is orders of magnitude bigger, plus search engine trickery?

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Having been part of it, and knowing two survivors from the inside, Altitude Software and OutSystems, I am feeling the midlife crisis as well. Specially when I also realize most of our juniors weren't even around when I was playing with this new software development stack made available to selected MSFT partners.

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post #4

Ah yeah dude. I'm having a midlife crisis too. But the dot-com era was only about 97-99. I miss the bitcoin casino era, when anyone who could write a poker parser could make real money. Wait. I miss the time when we got our news from 60 Minutes and Peter Jennings. Here's another thought: We've never had it so good. We can write anything we can dream of, on any device, and deploy it anywhere, without corralling physic…

>move fast and break things mentality A lot of todays IT is kind of core infrastructure and it hurt very much if you break things constant. Just came to my mind now. Todays software is fat and slow like more and more people today vs. command liners are still the slim, sporty ones.

I actually said that because last night I had a revelation. In my software now I want to move slow and don't break anything. That's a more healthy philosophy, I think. It doesn't mean the software is fat or slow -- quite the opposite. The code is better and cleaner because I'm not in a race to make a big tall tower, I'm perfecting a craft to build a perfect cabinet.

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post #12

Funnily enough I was looking for an article I read about a public figure and the website is long gone. Fortunately there was a copy on Archive.org but it really made me long for the days when the world and their dog felt excited enough to create websites that weren't commercial, weren't laden with ads, they were just labours of love. There were fan websites, sometimes linked together in web rings (I loved web rings)…

Did we lose it or did we just get much more stuff that is different from it and lose discoverability because the sheer amount of overall stuff is orders of magnitude bigger, plus search engine trickery?

Could be a bit of both, although I suspect people moved over to platforms such as blogs and social media instead of outpouring their thoughts on personal web spaces.

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I moved to California to work at a dot com on March 3, 2000. The NASDAQ peaked one week later on March 10. To me that era is captured in Douglas Coupland's novels Microserfs (pre-crash) and JPod (post-crash). JPod was also made into a show for Canadian TV that's a lot of fun!

Re: The History of the Dot Com Era

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I moved to California to work at a dot com on March 3, 2000. The NASDAQ peaked one week later on March 10. To me that era is captured in Douglas Coupland's novels Microserfs (pre-crash) and JPod (post-crash). JPod was also made into a show for Canadian TV that's a lot of fun!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry for you. Being part of it was something. I took a greyhound to San Francisco in 97 and went through the yellowpages trying to find jobs. Lived in a scary as hell weekly bum hotel in the tenderloin and walked, in a suit, to the Hilton every day to make phone calls for interviews. I was 17. Called one company called "Sunset" or "Sunrise" productions, who needed a designer. Interviewed with them in SOMA; it was Bear Magazine/GBM and man, I walked out of there feeling like fresh meat. But it was almost $30k/year. Got hired for $28k/yr [at a "web startup"] as a junior designer instead - I didn't need that kind of therapy bill. Was treated like complete shit, made to work 12 hour days in competition with senior designers and the AD, while they complained about the webmonkey grunts next to me who I was trying to learn HTML from. In an office of "producers" and salespeople who were all getting ridiculous paychecks and buying late-model jeeps, the only smart ones were the ones who were brewing their own code and staying up late working on their own projects. The producers stayed up late playing WoW and avoiding their wives and babies. Hitting on the one female designer who loathed the place. It taught me never to work in an office again as long as I live.

Can't believe I didn't read either of those Douglas Coupland novels. "Generation X" was pretty seminal, though.

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post #6

IMHO the Dot Com era never ended, much like the cold war never did. These just come out in waves. The today "dot com" bubble of ridiculously expensive bullshit IT companies can well burst one day as well.

Will burst. But probably not for a year or two. The current hyped up everything + large scale money printing by the EU + US makes me want to put actual gold bars under my bed.

I believe many people would rather buy gold bars if this wasn't regulated heavily. Today gold bars are not much different from paper money - they must have a label of a licensed foundry, can only be traded by licensed merchants and the price at which an individual can sell a random piece of gold usually is well below the market AFAIK. Cryptocurrencies are way more convenient but are themselves a bubble (which I find less likely to burst than the shares though).

Re: The History of the Dot Com Era

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One aspect of these retrospectives of the dot-com boom era, is the mistaken idea that everyone at the time was unquestioningly swept along with the hype. Here in Sweden, while the newspapers were full of proudly patriotic articles about how boo.com was part of a new paradigm of internet-based economies that somehow didn't need to be 'profitable' in some ill-defined 'old-fashioned' sense, pretty much all the serious developers that I worked with were wondrous and mocking of the hype and the ridiculously shaky technology that underwrote it.

At the same time, massive central buildings in the most expensive parts of Stockholm were being luxuriously renovated to provide multinational 'tech' companies with a base for their over-inflated staff: friends of mine were employed at one of them, and within a couple of months most of their friends and their girlfriends, and their girlfriend's friends were also working there, holding work-titles that had little relation to any business-case that we or even they could understand.

Whenever I visited to hang out in the enormous purpose-built cinema or in one of the crazily and expensively fitted meditation or creation rooms, I was always amused by the enormous bowl of luxurious fruit in the lobby - always topped by a pineapple. The small detail seemed to symbolize the absurdity of the whole show: who was the pineapple meant for? Which member of staff or visitor was supposed to pick up this pineapple on the way through the lobby? Usually it stayed there the whole week, to be replaced the week after by another fresh pineapple, and so on until the bust.

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