Economic history of World War II and the 18th Brumaire

Post by jhbadger » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 8:40 AM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #10

guythedudebro wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that Germany came even close to winning the war has always seemed aggressively idiotic to me. We weren't lucky to win the war, Germany was lucky to even make it out of the 30's

They had won the war. Then, they decided to invade the USSR... Same mistake Napoleon did and it played out almost the same.

But this assumes the US never entered the war. The US was basically invincible before the advent of the ICBM because there was no way for neither Germany nor Japan to launch an effective attack on the US mainland, and more importantly, on its industrial capacity. But the US could easily attack by air both Germany and Japan thanks to allies within striking range. The standard Nazis/Japan conquers the US scenario as in The Man in the High Castle just doesn't make sense.

Post by mytailorisrich » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 8:53 AM UTC

jhbadger wrote: post #11

mytailorisrich wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They had won the war. Then, they decided to invade the USSR... Same mistake Napoleon did and it played out almost the same.

But this assumes the US never entered the war. The US was basically invincible before the advent of the ICBM because there was no way for neither Germany nor Japan to launch an effective attack on the US mainland, and more importantly, on its industrial capacity. But the US could easily attack by air both Germany and Japan thanks to allies within striking range. The standard Nazis/Japan conquers the US scenario as in…

If Germany had not invaded the USSR then they would both have had the upper hand at an invasion of the British Isles and an allied invasion of Europe would have been close to impossible. At which point whether Germany could successfully invade the US becomes irrelevant because neither side can destroy the other, which usually leads to peace talks and a peace agreement that acknowledges the status quo, which was German control of Europe.

Again, that's not very different from the situation in 1812. In fact Germany had a much stronger position.

Japan also went way over their heads but they actually did that early when they invaded China. The attack on Pearl Harbour was the nail in the coffin because that led to full support from the US to China along with destruction of Japanese industrial capacity.

Don't try to invade Russia, and don't try to invade China. This may sound obvious but history shows that lessons need to be learned and re-learned the hard way.

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