Given a radical departure from the JavaScript core (comparing to Coffeescript), I wonder how easy the debugging would be.
ClojureScript
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Re: ClojureScript
#12Node.js + clojurescript just came up in the Demo. Part of me says awesome, another part says "How many hipster programmer brains blew up" Overall I'm excited about this and anxious to see how far it can be taken, because if you can write an ENTIRE webapp in clojure is thought provoking.
Node.js is the pragmatic choice for ClojureScript command line apps. One of Clojure's weaknesses was that the JVM was not a great choice for these types of scripts. ClojureScript + Node.js effectively solves this problem.
Oh I fully agree with that, and even if we got NOTHING else from this that would be cool. I just can't help from finding some humor in the idea as well.
Re: ClojureScript
#13Node.js + clojurescript just came up in the Demo. Part of me says awesome, another part says "How many hipster programmer brains blew up" Overall I'm excited about this and anxious to see how far it can be taken, because if you can write an ENTIRE webapp in clojure is thought provoking.
Node.js is the pragmatic choice for ClojureScript command line apps. One of Clojure's weaknesses was that the JVM was not a great choice for these types of scripts. ClojureScript + Node.js effectively solves this problem.
I don't understand; why bring a web framework into it for command-line work? Is it just that straight-up V8 has a crappy CLI experience?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Node.js is the pragmatic choice for ClojureScript command line apps. One of Clojure's weaknesses was that the JVM was not a great choice for these types of scripts. ClojureScript + Node.js effectively solves this problem.
I don't understand; why bring a web framework into it for command-line work? Is it just that straight-up V8 has a crappy CLI experience?
Web framework? Do you mean Google Closure? If so, bear in mind that the compilation phase will remove unused code, so you're not forced to carry any of it with you if you never use it in your code. As for Node, you do not need it I suppose, but I do not have experience using straight-up V8.
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#15I'm wondering if this has the refs, agents, and atoms that make concurrent clojure so awesome. If not, it would feel.... strange.
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#16I'm wondering if this has the refs, agents, and atoms that make concurrent clojure so awesome. If not, it would feel.... strange.
The impression I got is the core syntax is all there, you just don't get access to the jvm libraries anymore.
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#17I'm wondering if this has the refs, agents, and atoms that make concurrent clojure so awesome. If not, it would feel.... strange.
IIRC just atoms are available right now.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand; why bring a web framework into it for command-line work? Is it just that straight-up V8 has a crappy CLI experience?
Web framework? Do you mean Google Closure? If so, bear in mind that the compilation phase will remove unused code, so you're not forced to carry any of it with you if you never use it in your code. As for Node, you do not need it I suppose, but I do not have experience using straight-up V8.
Right, I was talking about node. It sounds like perhaps node has had more people polishing the command-line tools? Stuff that probably belongs in V8, but goes in node because it's a more openly-developed project? The mention of node just seemed a little out of place at first glance.
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#19I'm wondering if this has the refs, agents, and atoms that make concurrent clojure so awesome. If not, it would feel.... strange.
Atoms are available now. Agents might come soon. Refs and Vars are questionable.
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#20I'm wondering if this has the refs, agents, and atoms that make concurrent clojure so awesome. If not, it would feel.... strange.
Atoms are there. The others are not, but they would be pretty much meaningless in a Javascript engine anyway, since Javascript is specified to be single threaded.