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Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by Krasnol »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #124
Krasnol wrote: post #52

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Why shouldn't it be sustainable? The market for cheap phones is much bigger than for the expensive ones and as you see from the Apple numbers: the expensive market is pretty much covered. Also covered in an separate environment form where those users are reluctant to switch because it's hard to learn again. imho I think that fighting for the low budget Android market makes much more sense than for the high price Appl…

That's not the case with refurbished ones though.

Or fake ones but that's not the point.

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Post by oriolid »

grishka wrote: post #164
oriolid wrote: post #156

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It doesn't help if you're an app developer. All you can do is to keep hacking around Xiaomi's bugs because the users sure won't install LineageOS. The part about preventing adb is just icing on the cake. The nice part is that unlike with Samsung, the users know that they're buying crap and often don't really expect apps to work.

In my experience they do expect them to work and complain the loudest. And then there's Meizu. No idea what it's like now, but ~5 years ago they meddled with the system framework enough to make my app crash. We had to buy one of those phones and I then decompiled their POS ROM to work around this madness. I had to ask myself "how on earth did this pass Google's CTS" multiple times, and the answer apparently was "it n…

I hadn't even heard about Meizu before. Just the ad copy "Better Android Experience" sounds like it's going to be non-standard in everything it does.

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Post by unicornporn »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #120
aneutron wrote: post #62

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The downside is that you lose DRM-enabled content. For example, it's a hassle to use Netflix at 720p/1080p, and what's more important to my use case for example, is Spotify. It's _possible_ in theory, but it's extremely hacky. I personally went the Google route w/ a Pixel 4a, so I get a simple, zero non-sense UI, with no forced ads or anything, just a smooth experience, at a slight premium (not that much to be comple…

I was happy with my Pixel 4A until I left it in my jacket pocket during heavy rain. The resulting humidity was enough to definitely kill it. I get that it has no IP rating at all so it's entirely my fault but still it's the first time this has ever happened to me in fifteen years of owning a mobile phone. The 4A is just extremely not waterproof. After that, I'm never buying another cheap Pixel again.

> it has no IP rating at all

Just wtf. I had a $130 phone with Lineage die on me the same way recently. No IP on that machine, but if you pay for a Pixel you should definitely have it.

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Post by machiaweliczny »

murukesh_s wrote: post #154
meibo wrote: post #4

They're flooding the market with good, very very cheap smartphones - it's no surprise. Especially for older people that don't need $500+ flagships, a $150 Xiaomi is more than sufficient. I see them a lot nowadays. Makes me wonder if it's sustainable.

>Makes me wonder if it's sustainable. The pricing is now norm in Asia for last several years. In fact Xiaomi is not #1 in terms of quality or value for money. It's Oppo/Realme/OnePlus (all are same hardware). They do not have ads like Xiaomi and pretty much retail for the same price and ship millions of hardware. The quality is definitely higher with Oppo/Realme (budget options) having same quality as Oneplus (premiu…

Doesn't Oneplus have better software? Oppo is not popular in EU.

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Post by machiaweliczny »

Aulig wrote: post #78

Cant really beat Xiaomi on a price/value standpoint. Personally, Id never use MIUI though. So much bloatware. I replaced it with LineageOS and it's a delight. Unfortunate that we must assume that the devices are manufactured under awful working conditions though.

I think that shitty camera and audio justify price difference (I have Xiaomi)

Re: Xiaomi becomes number two smartphone vendor for first time ever in Q2 2021

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Post by commoner »

machiaweliczny wrote: post #174
murukesh_s wrote: post #154

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>Makes me wonder if it's sustainable. The pricing is now norm in Asia for last several years. In fact Xiaomi is not #1 in terms of quality or value for money. It's Oppo/Realme/OnePlus (all are same hardware). They do not have ads like Xiaomi and pretty much retail for the same price and ship millions of hardware. The quality is definitely higher with Oppo/Realme (budget options) having same quality as Oneplus (premiu…

Doesn't Oneplus have better software? Oppo is not popular in EU.

OxygenOS (OnePlus) and ColorOS (Oppo) will soon share the same codebase.

https://9to5google.com/2021/07/02/oneplus-android-update-sch...

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Post by ngc248 »

grishka wrote: post #35

Xiaomi is able to make their phones so cheap by making their software as crappy as possible. They collect a lot of data (yes, their calculator app has a privacy policy) and sometimes show ads. You need a Xiaomi account to enable debugging (adb). Though they're still immensely popular here in Russia.

All their apps are privacy nightmares. I have a MI Note 4 and MIUI is still buttery smooth after all these years. Before this I used to have Samsung's flagship phones. The UI got laggy and slow after a few years. Compared to that MIUI is nice.

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Post by murukesh_s »

machiaweliczny wrote: post #174
murukesh_s wrote: post #154

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>Makes me wonder if it's sustainable. The pricing is now norm in Asia for last several years. In fact Xiaomi is not #1 in terms of quality or value for money. It's Oppo/Realme/OnePlus (all are same hardware). They do not have ads like Xiaomi and pretty much retail for the same price and ship millions of hardware. The quality is definitely higher with Oppo/Realme (budget options) having same quality as Oneplus (premiu…

Doesn't Oneplus have better software? Oppo is not popular in EU.

I see, Realme/Oppo is not popular yet but is miles ahead of Xiaomi. Its almost as good as Samsung in terms of durability and much better in terms of quality of underlying components (vs value). Its pretty much a budget OnePlus.

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Post by marcellus23 »

izacus wrote: post #145
the_dune_13 wrote: post #135

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> it blows the iphone 11 out of the water in camera, speed, responsiveness I have not seen iphone being outclassed by another phone.

Then you haven't been looking very far. Doesn't anyone on HN understand the concept of observer bias? -_-

Maybe you’re the one with the bias? Or can observer bias apply only to people who disagree with you?
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