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Chernobyl's 'stalker' subculture

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Re: Chernobyl's 'stalker' subculture

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"Stalker" is my favorite film of all time and I highly recommend it.

I’ve also seen it many times and love it but I wouldn’t recommend it to just anyone. Here’s a list with the top 1000 films of all time as voted by MUBI (a community of movie geeks that like arthouse films). Stalker is at sitting at no 5. https://mubi.com/lists/the-top-1000

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See, some people think our current culture/civilization/capitalism will not survive climate change, but clearly there is no wasteland too blasted and dangerous for it to eventually become a money-making tourist attraction. Our culture will live on in its perversity. I fully expect people to be huffing recreational Covid in 30 years’ time.

Alexa, remind me in 30 years

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I'm surprised nowhere in the article does it mention the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game series (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R .) They are loosely based on the novel, however perhaps more well known (in the US at least) than the book or movie.

The game has an interesting "meta" aspect because it incorporates the Chernobyl disaster into its storyline, twenty years after after the Chernobyl workers incorporated the novel and movie into their mythology. Real "art imitates life imitates art" stuff.

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Second this recommendation. And if you’re used to sci-fi by Western authors, books by Cold War, Iron Curtain authors like Strugatsky, Lem (Polish) and others are fascinating.

Thanks for that, anything in particular by Lem that you recommend getting started with? I find we get very little exposure to Russian / slavic authors in North America, and when I do occasionally get to read one (including the classics but also some paperbacks) I suspect how much we must be missing by not having more of them readily available and marketed.

I mean… Solaris is amazing and was made into a film at least twice. The book is about the difficulties communicating with an alien in the vein of Arrival, but it predates Arrival by many years and is a better book, in my humble opinion.

The book is much more detailed than the films. For example, in the book they go down to the “surface” of the alien and visit it… more than once as I recall. That’s not in the films.

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The piece about possibly coming across killers as they buried a body feels like quite the buried lede…

It might be poor opsec to elaborate too heavily about a time you witnessed organized criminals concealing a murder.

At some point we're going to have to re-introduce the word dangerous to mean poor opsec in a non-CIA context.

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The article talks about Roadside Picnic, the Russian sci-fi novel where the Stalker term was coined. I learned about this book on HN and highly recommend it.

It is absolutely mad how Roadside Picnic and derived works basically created a fictional setting and subculture that, decades later, was brought wholesale into reality. Never seen anything like it, and I doubt anything like it will ever happen again.

“Life imitates art.” — Oscar Wilde

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I watched Tarkovski's movie for the first time the other night. It was a lot more "artsy" than I expected (in a good way).

If you liked it, watch the Russian Solaris. It's interesting to compare and contrast with 2001.

This is an amazing film. It was a real pleasure comparing it to the Hollywood version and also the book. The Hollywood version is also quite good, but focuses on different things (Kelvins relationship with his ex wife, as I recall) than the Soviet version.

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The article talks about Roadside Picnic, the Russian sci-fi novel where the Stalker term was coined. I learned about this book on HN and highly recommend it.

Concur. My all-time favorite sci-fi novel. And that's reading it in the English translation. It must be sublime in Russian.

Did you read Metro 2033? It’s been compared to Roadside Picnic and has spawned a sub-culture, too (exploring abandoned Soviet subways lines and stations)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Concur. My all-time favorite sci-fi novel. And that's reading it in the English translation. It must be sublime in Russian.

Did you read Metro 2033? It’s been compared to Roadside Picnic and has spawned a sub-culture, too (exploring abandoned Soviet subways lines and stations)

Metro 2033 is a solid SF B-grade actioner. Not great, not terrible. It's not even vaguely in the same league as Roadside Picnic.

Re: Chernobyl's 'stalker' subculture

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So I stumbled across this multipart video series a while back. It's an urban explorer that gets a couple locals to guide him into the exclusion zone so they can climb the giant Duga radar. It's a bit on the long side, but I found it fascinating. They ended up getting spotted by some guards and had to do a cat and mouse game through the forest to get out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhuhnXvSCOE

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