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An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by leppr »

ryanSrich wrote: post #136
barrkel wrote: post #127

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Bookmarks are like a bin things get thrown into and completely forgotten about. I open a bookmark maybe once a week, and then it's usually for something like accessing the wifi router, or a bookmarklet for adapting a web site. Tabs are like a TODO list. If something needs to have attention paid to it, and then dismissed, I open a tab for it. (Of course, I use Firefox & Tree Style Tabs. I find Chrome almost unusable d…

Interesting. I’d never be able to use Tabs as todos because I personally use tabs very ephemerally. Closing out of chrome with 3 profiles and 10 tabs each open is nothing to me because I don’t care what tabs are open. If they’re important links then I’ve already written them down in Roam and/or bookmarked them. question - how do you find anything? Maybe it’s the fact that I’ve never used tree tabs, but finding the li…

Firefox suggests open tabs by default when typing in the address bar.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by TacticalCoder »

The M1 line up seems great but... I'm very surprised by all the comments from people discovering what a quiet computer is like in 2021.

I've been running PCs so quiet they're inaudible since, what, nearly two decades now!? (since basically the first consumer SSDs started hitting the market: don't remember when that was but it was a long time ago)

An ultra quiet PSU, a gigantic CPU heatsink, a huge CPU fan running so slow you can read what's written on the blades, a passively cooled GPU (ofc not working if you do GPU heavy stuff) and that's it.

Now it's great if, at last, it's coming to beefy laptops too. But a quiet computer ain't anything new.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by RandomWorker »

Rd6n6 wrote: post #115
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

I just looked up some benchmarks. Apparently a m1 is 2-4x faster at many tasks than my wife’s gaming desktop from 5 years ago. It’s comparable in many benchmarks to my ryzen cpu as well? What’s the catch?

The catch is that you are using untested hardware. You have no idea if this will last, who will support what, and potentially risk money and your data. Thing is the upside for us as a consumer is insane. Tbh buy a MacBook is 20/30% more expensive than equivalent type specs on windows. But in the case of the air that’s 200/300 dollars. Just to try and test this new hardware if it’s your main device. It’s a lot of risk.

I feel confident running the system for a while now. Seeing more software come on board. Even for the extra money, I say go. I’m a dev/product designer, most of my work is coding, product development, product management and graphical design. It does everything I need faster, no lag.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by dreamcompiler »

grishka wrote: post #121
testfoobar wrote: post #98

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Typing lag is such a sad result of all our modern computing abstractions. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/261148-modern-computer...

Hm. I've always thought it was more of a result of our current display technology? Digital displays buffer an entire frame before they display it. Sometimes several frames. And the refresh rate is usually 60 Hz so each buffered frame adds a delay of 16 ms. CRTs on the other hand have basically zero latency because the signal coming in directly controls the intensity of the beam as it draws the picture. Anyway, is it…

CRTs are potentially worse. It takes the electron beam 16 ms to paint the screen. If the electron beam is halfway down the screen and you change a pixel right above where the beam just painted, you'll have to wait 16 ms before you see anything change.

All CRT displays attached to computers in the last 40 years were driven from memory buffers just like LCDs, and those buffers were typically only allowed to change while the electron beam was "off", i.e. moving from the bottom of the screen back to the top. Letting the buffer change while the beam is writing results in "tearing" the image, which was usually considered a bad thing.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by minusf »

Rd6n6 wrote: post #135
minusf wrote: post #132

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and big sur and up... unfortunately the quality of the OS is not keeping up with the quality of the hw.

How so?

let's not go there :} life is too short to compile bug lists for macos.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by EugeneOZ »

minusf wrote: post #132
Retr0id wrote: post #124

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The only real catch is that you're currently limited to only 16GB of RAM.

and big sur and up... unfortunately the quality of the OS is not keeping up with the quality of the hw.

The best OS of existing.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by vbezhenar »

grishka wrote: post #121
testfoobar wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typing lag is such a sad result of all our modern computing abstractions. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/261148-modern-computer...

Hm. I've always thought it was more of a result of our current display technology? Digital displays buffer an entire frame before they display it. Sometimes several frames. And the refresh rate is usually 60 Hz so each buffered frame adds a delay of 16 ms. CRTs on the other hand have basically zero latency because the signal coming in directly controls the intensity of the beam as it draws the picture. Anyway, is it…

I don't think that LCD buffer anything. I've experienced screen tearing which should not happen with buffering. Most applications implement some kind of vsync which introduces buffering and related delays indeed.

Best option is to use adaptive sync and get rid of vsync. But support for this technology is surprisingly not mature, it works mostly in games.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by ideamotor »

gambiting wrote: post #123
lukevp wrote: post #65

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One of the reasons iOS feels smoother than Android is because the render loop of the OS is decoupled from the app. The apps aren’t allowed to introduce jank, so if you’re scrolling a webpage and stuff is loading simultaneously, iOS will be way smoother. I think this is also why they can have such low latency on inputs, for example with the Apple Pencil which is much lower latency than the surface pen or the android s…

I wonder what made apple give the iPad Pro such an awful screen though, considering all the software optimisations that they do. I got the M1 iPad a month ago, and the screen has absolutely horrendous ghosting issues, like, what is this? An LCD from 2001? Just open the settings app, and quickly scroll the options up and down - white text on the black background leaves such a visible smudge, it bothers me massively wh…

I’m worried the upcoming upgraded MBP will only have this option. Although I read they released an update that should minimize this issue. Have you tried that?

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by kube-system »

alisonkisk wrote: post #60
habibur wrote: post #12

Reminds me, 10 years back, battery cars suddenly seemed so much silent, that they added engine noise played on speaker to alert pedestrians.

"suddenly" was because that's when they started existing in noticeable numbers.

No, it's because vehicles before then were not required to meet minimum sound requirements by law. Check the spec sheets of HEV/PHEV/EV vehicles made before then -- they don't have acoustic alerting systems. Now they all do (in the jurisdictions that require it).
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